RG3 and Gruden?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Wait. So your being sarcastic or you dont really understand players can have strengths and weaknesses? Just because Jordan Reed is our best TE doesn't mean he's effective in the run game.



Btw. You suck at reading comprehension. Or you just chose to troll. I cant figure it out

I think Rotten is actually Jim Zorn. He desperately wants Gruden to be a bigger joke than he was.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I think Rotten is actually Jim Zorn. He desperately wants Gruden to be a bigger joke than he was.

I haven't given up on Gruden. I also think the RG3 vs Gruden thing is speculation on a losing team who is frustrated with performance.

[BaltimoreSkins]

I tend to agree. The presser I heard yesterday from Gruden suggests any discord between the two is minimal. I am not going to say it doesn't exist. The reason Polumbus was such a part of the offense under Shanahan was because it was a run first offense and we were accepting liability in the passing game. The TE play has been very suspect this year especially as we have transitioned to a more pass first attack. This year ranked top 10 as of now versus last year 16th. We can question why Gruden isn't using the weapons he has how they have been most successful, but we also need to realize he has his own agenda.

[diehardskin2982]

RG needs to reach out to two people IMO, Jeff Garcia and George Whitfield Jr.

Garcia was the best pocket presence QB I have seen. George trains Luck and others can be a benefit to rebuild Robert.

[Alvin Walton]

We dont have a pocket to teach from.
We have a house of cards in a stiff breeze.

I'd start using the shotgun ASAP.

[BaltimoreSkins]

I think that is fine if Griffin was "pro ready" but he so far from it that we need to develop the skills. Waiting on the offseason to develop those skills only encourages those weaknesses, the longer they are practiced the longer they will take to break. I do think Gruden could've done a better job of working in the necessary skills while keeping the dynamics that make Robert a threat.

[diehardskin2982]

I think the solution is when both sides work together.

One- Hire the best QB coach they can find to give RG3 the instructions and work needed to succeed.

Two- Ease him into a prostyle offense. Start off with things he is good at giving RG a rhythm. Then start to add prostyle concepts

RG has to hire a private coach to help him work on his fundamentals in the offseason. As well as someone to watch film with him and help get better going through progressions.

[skinsfan69]

At this point moving forward to next year, Gruden needs to play the best QB that's on the roster. It's not his job to cater to Griffin because Griffin hasn't shown he can run a pro offense. He'll also be going in his 4th year. Yeah they can keep coaching him up, but at some point, the train can't sit on the platform for RG3. I think he's on the team next year cause of the owner, but he's going to be competing.

[Rotten1980]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/redskin...3223--nfl.html

Colt might be more injury prone than RG. Will he be back next season?

[calia]

Honestly, the media coverage on the whole RGIII/Gruden thing is f_ing stupid. The tag line is that "We need a lead so RGIII won't have to drp back." What Gruden actually says is far less dramatic: Gruden: We need lead so RGIII won't have to drop back - NFL.com All he says is that "It's important for us to have success on first and second down so we don't have to drop back and throw it 30 times a game, have a lead so we don't have to worry about it," Gruden said. "Eventually, when you get behind, when you get in third down, you get behind the chains, those have to be accomplished -- the drop-back reads, progressions have to be accomplished, and that's something we're fighting through right now."

What's controversial about that? Obviously, our 3rd down coversions are terrible, and we've been in 3rd and long a lot. That's something any coach wants to avoid, much less one piloting a 3-11 team.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by calia

Honestly, the media coverage on the whole RGIII/Gruden thing is f_ing stupid. <snip>

Agreed. A lot of that sh*t is misleading and extremely annoying.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by calia

Honestly, the media coverage on the whole RGIII/Gruden thing is f_ing stupid. The tag line is that "We need a lead so RGIII won't have to drp back." What Gruden actually says is far less dramatic: Gruden: We need lead so RGIII won't have to drop back - NFL.com All he says is that "It's important for us to have success on first and second down so we don't have to drop back and throw it 30 times a game, have a lead so we don't have to worry about it," Gruden said. "Eventually, when you get behind, when you get in third down, you get behind the chains, those have to be accomplished -- the drop-back reads, progressions have to be accomplished, and that's something we're fighting through right now."

What's controversial about that? Obviously, our 3rd down coversions are terrible, and we've been in 3rd and long a lot. That's something any coach wants to avoid, much less one piloting a 3-11 team.

Agreed. That's the media unfairly just ripping the skins. Gossip tabloid garbage. not professional journalism for sure

[mredskins]

RG3 and Gruden may just be our best options for 2015. Tell me a better HC and QB that will be available in 2015 and wants to come here.....

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by mredskins

RG3 and Gruden may just be our best options for 2015. Tell me a better HC and QB that will be available in 2015 and wants to come here.....

Now how the hell would any of us know that at this point?

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Now how the hell would any of us know that at this point?

QBs it's easier to know than coaches. FA/draft just doesn't have much to offer in the QB dept., at least nobody who's an immediate upgrade over RG with higher potential.

Different story with potential HC's, but sounds like that decisions been made so who cares