Skins vs. Cards, Pre-Season week 4 Gameday thread

[CRedskinsRule]

Shanahan will focus on penalties in his presser, that was really sloppy by a few players

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I hope they keep the press away from Albert. I don't want to hear any b.s. the week before the season starts.

I hope they put dozens of microphones(I was gonna say mikes but decided that might sound wrong ) in front of him and he says the right thing. Keeping him away will only breed speculation.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I hope they put dozens of microphones(I was gonna say mikes but decided that might sound wrong ) in front of him and he says the right thing. Keeping him away will only breed speculation.

He should say: I played the "whole game". LOL

[skinsnut]

Now that the pre-season is over...what are your concerns?

Mine are
1. WR's still a problem
2. Running game weaker than I thought it would be
3. Running defense way worse than I thought it would be
4. Haynesworth looks weak
5. We may have found a decent WR in Armstrong
6. Without Shanny and McNabb, this team is no better than last year...except arguably the oline's pass blocking....the defense is far worse, due to the 3-4 transition, andre carter and orakpo and other situational pass rushers have been neutralized since they are no longer on the line where then excel.

This is a 6-10 team...but I will be an optimist and go with 7-9.
What do you think?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Now that the pre-season is over...what are your concerns?

Mine are
1. WR's still a problem
2. Running game weaker than I thought it would be
3. Running defense way worse than I thought it would be
4. Haynesworth looks weak
5. We may have found a decent WR in Armstrong
6. Without Shanny and McNabb, this team is no better than last year...except arguably the oline's pass blocking....the defense is far worse, due to the 3-4 transition, andre carter and orakpo and other situational pass rushers have been neutralized since they are no longer on the line where then excel.

This is a 6-10 team...but I will be an optimist and go with 7-9.
What do you think?

Here are mine:

1. Agree with your #1 about WRs
2. I would have liked to see McNabb play against the Jets, get him more real time reps in a game situation
3. Our d-line outside of AH are not pushing blockers (see Bills game)
4. Questionable covering skills from OLBs
5. Not thrilled with the RBs behind CP
6. We still not have a good covering Safety (we have a bunch of SSs)

[irish]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Now that the pre-season is over...what are your concerns?

Mine are
1. WR's still a problem
2. Running game weaker than I thought it would be
3. Running defense way worse than I thought it would be
4. Haynesworth looks weak
5. We may have found a decent WR in Armstrong
6. Without Shanny and McNabb, this team is no better than last year...except arguably the oline's pass blocking....the defense is far worse, due to the 3-4 transition, andre carter and orakpo and other situational pass rushers have been neutralized since they are no longer on the line where then excel.

This is a 6-10 team...but I will be an optimist and go with 7-9.
What do you think?

I agree, they cant run and they cant stop the run. That wont cut it in the NFC East. Except for Shanny & DM this is essentially the same team as last year but Shanny makes a big difference and he's not going to get hurt and miss games. DM also makes a diff and hopefully he can stay healthy. These 2 people will make the Skins an improved team, they will finish 7-9.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by irish

I agree, they cant run and they cant stop the run. That wont cut it in the NFC East. Except for Shanny & DM this is essentially the same team as last year but Shanny makes a big difference and he's not going to get hurt and miss games. DM also makes a diff and hopefully he can stay healthy. These 2 people will make the Skins an improved team, they will finish 7-9.

How is this team essentially the same. Our OL has 3 new starters (1 Known High quality player, 1 High quality rookie, 1 known reliable player), we cut a bunch of deadwood and brought in players who understand they have to perform to stay, and we seem to have gotten rid of the underlying complacency that had dogged this team.

Does that mean 14-2, I doubt it, but it definitely is a new and different team. We will have to see how that plays out on the field.

[KLHJ2]

WR's are fine RB's are fine everything is fine.

Our weak spot is the intermediate passing game on defense.

[skins89moss]

Our run defense did look soft in some of the preseason games this season. I'm concerned with the middle of our defense , London is small for a ILB in a 3-4 but if our NT can keep blockers off of him and Rocky we will be ok. Our safeties worry me but I do like the pick up of Tyrone Carter he is like Bob Sanders small but brings a punch.
The corners are solid but I rather keep Tryon over Westbrooke. Barnes is a work in progress still I assume he will make the roster for SPT. The RB's I say we keep CP, LJ and Williams is cheaper than WP. Williams can play SPT and Parker can not pass block.
The WR's position is tough but I say we keep Moss, DT, Austin, Armstrong, and Galloway. Banks will be PR/WR he has big play speed which you can not teach. They will work on ball security with him. D-Line not much has stood out from anyone. C.Wilson may have a break out season rushing the passer. I A, Carter is a liability in pass coverage so he better be rushing on every passing down. Orakpo needs to make more impact plays such as FF. Well can not wait to see who we cut and put on the practice squad.

[skinsfaninok]

6-10 Skinsnut? And this team is better than last season even without McNabb/Shanny... You throw in Williams/Brown at Tackles, a 100% Chris cooley and Jim Haslett on D with a 2nd year Brian Orakpo and yes we are better. Plus we have better depth IMO. We went 8-8 2 seasons ago with less talent and a dumb ass Coaching staff, Especially Zorn. JC is on the same level as Rex Grossman at QB, you can't deny that . Look at overall record and the fact that Rex has been to a SB. On top of that you add Mike Shanahan and Donovan McNabb, some speed and youth at WR and Jim Haslett on D. Id say at worst we are 8-8. I still see 9-7 honestly..

[Beemnseven]

I'm going to reserve judgement on the running game until I see the five starters on the O-line play a full 4 quarters together with a game plan in place.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I'm going to reserve judgement on the running game until I see the five starters on the O-line play a full 4 quarters together with a game plan in place.

Smart move Beem..That philosophy should apply to every aspect of the team including coaches. For now, hindsight is in order ahead of foresight. We first need to see just what kind of team this is going to be. Haven't seen enough yet in preseason to be able to make a definitive determination.

[aceinthehouse]

My concerns..?
I have none...

Our 1st team Defense not only has been vanilla,but has been rotating guys in & out of the Preseason with MAYBE the exception to the 3rd game against the Jets. OK..we let a HOFer look good at the age of 31,so the run D didn't look great even though I just mentioned the rotation and vanilla. Oh yea..Who was the #1 rushing team last season? Yet, we still managed to create a bunch of turnovers and made Sanchez look REALLY bad despite their ability to be successful running the ball.

We finally have a Kicker who doesn't force me to bite my nails everytime he lines up to kick the ball.
Is he Adam Viniterri..? No,but the guy booms the balls out of the endzone and I see Confidence on his face. That's enough for me...

Our return game? lol..Even without Banks..it's got to be better than Sideways Randel El...

Allthough our run blocking has not beenthat great at all,I'm not concerned. It's preseason and we have THE BEST coach at running the ball. I'll worry,if it carries over to regular season,but I will not worry about it now.

Our Pass protection on the 1st unit has been VERY good. Not perfect and still need to work on it,but I love the fact that our QB actually looks down the field and even delivers the pass. Not just Mcnabb,but even Grossman as well.

I predicted we will drop 40 pt's on Dallas in a week. I stand by that...

If I had to come up with a reason..just to make you happy about a concern I have...It would be the fumbles and turnovers..Although the majority has been from the 2nd and 3rd teams..I do not like that.

But then again..I feel like we have caused more turnovers in 4 preseason games than we have in 5 years total...lol
So take the good with the bad I guess...

But one thing I can confidentally tell everyone right now...

If we matched up this years team of offense and defense and coaches...VS.... last years team and coaches...

I would bet the farm that the score would not be like 6 of our losses were last season by 7 points or less...

I would give myself a 10 pt spread,that this team takes care of buisness.
and it's not even close imo...

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Couple of things, like others have said I am going to wait until the season starts to pass judgement on the running game, when we have 4 quarters with the same Oline in the game playing with a RB who is getting consistent carries and getting into his own goroove with the oline.

AH playing the entire game last night, moves him to the starting unit on week one,

I am not going to be surprised to see Devin Thomas being cut from the 53 man roster. He can't catch, he has so many drops this preseason and that is not what you want from him. He is not a game changer whenhe does catch and I do not see how he makes the team any more. Same goes for Roydell Williams.

Brandon Banks...... man this is a really tough decision for me as I do like the xplosiveness he bring but he has had a really hard time not fumbling the football and muffing punts.

The defense has had some let downs in the runing game but they have also been very stout this preseason. I do not believe they allowed a TD all preseason and they also have created a bunch of turnovers.

If this offense can turn it on when it counts we are going to be a down right good football team this year.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Couple of things, like others have said I am going to wait until the season starts to pass judgement on the running game, when we have 4 quarters with the same Oline in the game playing with a RB who is getting consistent carries and getting into his own goroove with the oline.

AH playing the entire game last night, moves him to the starting unit on week one,

I am not going to be surprised to see Devin Thomas being cut from the 53 man roster. He can't catch, he has so many drops this preseason and that is not what you want from him. He is not a game changer whenhe does catch and I do not see how he makes the team any more. Same goes for Roydell Williams.

Brandon Banks...... man this is a really tough decision for me as I do like the xplosiveness he bring but he has had a really hard time not fumbling the football and muffing punts.

The defense has had some let downs in the runing game but they have also been very stout this preseason. I do not believe they allowed a TD all preseason and they also have created a bunch of turnovers.

If this offense can turn it on when it counts we are going to be a down right good football team this year.

He was getting pushed around by 2nd string linemen. He's not starting. I found it funny that he was still in there in the 4th q.