Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So what happens if we go 5-11 next year? Which is a real possibility. Then you've got a high pick going to the Rams.

BFD. If we should happen to go 5-11 next season when RGIII is a rookie, then we'll still probably go 11-5 in 2013 with a more experienced RGIII at QB. You just don't get it, do you?

[coggs]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So what happens if we go 5-11 next year? Which is a real possibility. Then you've got a high pick going to the Rams.

The year after the Eli trade, the Chargers went 12-4, Giants went 6-10. SD had the Giants 12th overall pick. What made it worse at the time was the Giants could have not done a trade and still had Rivers (or Roethlisberger). I am not going to argue Eli vs Rivers vs Big Ben, but the Giants and Steelers have 2 Super Bowls since and the Chargers have a few division titles. Not as if the Skins can stay at 6 and still get one of the stud QBs.

[Chico23231]

reading the negativity in this thread is amazing. Lets just move on at this point. Was it alot, yes, but the return is huge. Lets see how this plays out first.

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So what happens if we go 5-11 next year? Which is a real possibility. Then you've got a high pick going to the Rams.

They took a chance to get a QB that they want and believe in. They had to at this point, get over it. The skins have been bad at anything they have done over the years to get better, Shannahan had a good draft last year. I suppose we could have traded back like we did a few years ago and drafted two Wrs that would never amount to nothing. It was a gamble and only time will tell.

Who did we get that was any good when we got all those picks from new Orleans in the Ricky Williams trade

[Alvin Walton]

I dont see any desperation in this at all.
This is how it works in the NFL today.
If you want to win, this is what you do.
This really isnt that much different than the Jay Cutler trade.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

I dont see any desperation in this at all.
This is how it works in the NFL today.
If you want to win, this is what you do.
This really isnt that much different than the Jay Cutler trade.

Cutler was an already proven QB. RG3 isn't.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Cutler was an already proven QB. RG3 isn't.

Isnt yet.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Isnt yet.

I really like the guy a lot. He's just what this organization needs. I just think the price was too steep.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I really like the guy a lot. He's just what this organization needs. I just think the price was too steep.

Basic economics. Supply was low (there's only 1 RG3). Demand was high (multiple teams wanting to trade up to #2, the Browns specifically). That tells you the price is going to be high. People can compare the Chargers/Giants trade but in reality they do not compare because the Giants were in a one team competition. It's comparing apples to oranges.

[Gmanc711]

I slightly say yes, but man it's close. Really allot to give up, but this franchise is in such dire need of a franchise QB, that I feel like we had to do it. There is a significant drop off between Luck/RGIII and everyone else... while it sounds great on paper to draft a guy in the second and have him learn for a year or two, how often does that really work out? Not saying guys never bust, but everything you see from RGIII has been gold. Not saying I'm happy about the 2 first rounders and second rounder just to move up four slots...but given way the organization has built itself the past few years, I think we're finally in a position to make this type of a deal.

We NEED to get a bigtime WR. I dont want to go nuts in free agency, except for that. Thats a must, we need a bigtime guy to come in, let Hank continue to develop and hopefully be a solid #2 who could develop into a #2 and then Moss to the slot. I think once we get a legit WR threat, we'll be so much more competitive.

[Defensewins]

Having a young top caliber prospect at Qb in Washington has been a LONG time coming.
Luck and RGIII are special. Time will only tell if this trade has been worth it. The chance of the Redskins having the #1 or #2 pick in an upcoming draft is unlikely. We are a rebuilding team, but the days of having a Colt-like one or two win season are way behind us. This reason alone make this risk/trade slightly more palatable. Even if we did not do this trade and kept all of our picks, the chances of us being in position to draft an RGIII/Luck type Qb in the 2013 and 2014 draft is extremely unlikely.
We payed a high price to get our guy. I am starting to be ok with it.
FA and the draft picks we have left are critical. OL, CB, WR and developing quality depth are critical. If we fail to get quality at Cb, OL and to a smaller extent WR, we will be a .500 or less team again next year.
We showed early last season that when healthy this core group is pretty good. We were devastated with injury last year. That won't happen every year.

HTTR!

[Lotus]

I'm incredibly stoked that we went all-in for a QB and soon will have Griffin.

But the sticker shock is just killing me.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Having a young top caliber prospect at Qb in Washington has been a LONG time coming.
Luck and RGIII are special. Time will only tell if this trade has been worth it. The chance of the Redskins having the #1 or #2 pick in an upcoming draft is unlikely. We are a rebuilding team, but the days of having a Colt-like one or two win season are way behind us. This reason alone make this risk/trade slightly more palatable. Even if we did not do this trade and kept all of our picks, the chances of us being in position to draft an RGIII/Luck type Qb in the 2013 and 2014 draft is extremely unlikely.
We payed a high price to get our guy. I am starting to be ok with it.
FA and the draft picks we have left are critical. OL, CB, WR and developing quality depth are critical. If we fail to get quality at Cb, OL and to a smaller extent WR, we will be a .500 team or less team again next year.
We showed early last season that when healthy this core group is pretty good. We were devastated with injury last year. That won't happen every year.

This is what I've been saying for a long time. I don't understand how people are highly critical of getting a possible franchise QB for our team. If we didn't get one this year, who is to say that the next two drafts will produce someone close to the caliber of RG3? And before anyone says Matt Barkley, he will most likely go #1 overall and would mean would have to give MORE than we did this year to trade up to #1. You have to pay a big price to get a franchise player, especially at QB, one way or the other. As I've said before, not going after a franchise QB has really worked out for us the last 20 years hasn't it?!?

[Mechanix544]

“This is the best throwing athlete I’ve seen come out in a while,” said former Baltimore Ravens coach Brian Billick, who now works for the NFL Network. “Far better than [Philadelphia Eagles quarterback] Michael Vick, in my opinion. Far better than [Carolina Panthers quarterback] Cam Newton.”

This is Brian Billicks take on RG3. Boy do I hope he is right! Not better, FAR BETTER. I think as time passes by, we will look back and be very satisfied with the trade.

[Alvin Walton]

I sure would like the Orakpo trading talk to die off.
Part of why I'm ok with the RG3 trade is that our defense is good and young and wont need that many bodies in the near future. Losing Rak would put a noticeable hole there.