Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

[MTK]

During this 3 game win streak he's completed 69% of his throws for 739 yards, 6 TDs, 3 INTs... with two road wins against the 2-0 Giants and the 3-1 Ravens. So WTF are people still complaining about??

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by MTK

During this 3 game win streak he's completed 69% of his throws for 739 yards, 6 TDs, 3 INTs... with two road wins against the 2-0 Giants and the 3-1 Ravens. So WTF are people still complaining about??

QB's are going to throw picks. Most of us know that as knowledgeable football fans. But is it me or do Kirk picks always seem to be backbreakers.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

QB's are going to throw picks. Most of us know that as knowledgeable football fans. But is it me or do Kirk picks always seem to be backbreakers.

To me backbreakers usually end up with losses, not 3 game streaks with 2 road wins. His pick yesterday was as harmless as they get because of the fumble.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by MTK

To me backbreakers usually end up with losses, not 3 game streaks with 2 road wins. His pick yesterday was as harmless as they get because of the fumble.

OMG really? Being up by 40 points and throwing that pick is harmless,just because dude fumbled doesnt make it harmless.And the wind had nothing to do with it,it looked like he threw it into triple coverage.
The only reason his picks the past 2 games havent been backbreakers is pure frickin luck.
I cannot believe your reasoning,you cannot possibly be being objective about Kirk.If he was playing for another team I do not believe you guys would think Kirk was that great.
Going back to my comparison with Hoyer.Hoyer threw for 400 yards yesterday with 2 tds and no picks.Hoyer and Cousins career stats are very similar.Cousins has slightly higher td percentage but Hoyer has lower int percentage.Plus Hoyer played for freaking Cleveland.
Am I saying I would rather have Hoyer then Cousins,no I'm not but that's probably because I'm a skins fan,I'm a Cousins fan,and therefore I am not looking at it objectively.
Can you imagine Brian Hoyer making 17 million a yr and being considered a franchise qb? I can't either but yet we are thinking that about Kirk.
If that guy doesnt fumble the int do you still think we win that game?
Last week when Cleveland rb fumbled{and from what I read Cleveland actually recovered and it was a blown call,lucky again}do you think we win that game if we dont get that fumble? I dont think we would have won either game.
Just because we won both games does not give Kirk a free pass
But I can see from your post we are not going to agree on this subject,l just hope Kirk's luck will continue in the future when he throws more backbreaking ints
HTTR

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

OMG really? Being up by 40 points and throwing that pick is harmless,just because dude fumbled doesnt make it harmless.And the wind had nothing to do with it,it looked like he threw it into triple coverage.

The only reason his picks the past 2 games havent been backbreakers is pure frickin luck.

I cannot believe your reasoning,you cannot possibly be being objective about Kirk.If he was playing for another team I do not believe you guys would think Kirk was that great.

Going back to my comparison with Hoyer.Hoyer threw for 400 yards yesterday with 2 tds and no picks.Hoyer and Cousins career stats are very similar.Cousins has slightly higher td percentage but Hoyer has lower int percentage.Plus Hoyer played for freaking Cleveland.

Am I saying I would rather have Hoyer then Cousins,no I'm not but that's probably because I'm a skins fan,I'm a Cousins fan,and therefore I am not looking at it objectively.

Can you imagine Brian Hoyer making 17 million a yr and being considered a franchise qb? I can't either but yet we are thinking that about Kirk.

If that guy doesnt fumble the int do you still think we win that game?

Last week when Cleveland rb fumbled{and from what I read Cleveland actually recovered and it was a blown call,lucky again}do you think we win that game if we dont get that fumble? I dont think we would have won either game.

Just because we won both games does not give Kirk a free pass

But I can see from your post we are not going to agree on this subject,l just hope Kirk's luck will continue in the future when he throws more backbreaking ints

HTTR

Brian Hoyer played against arguably thee worst pass d in football in perfect weather.
Cousins played a top 5-10 pass d in atrocious weather.
In both their short careers at starter the numbers are heavily in favor of KC.
Not excuses, but facts.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

OMG really? Being up by 40 points and throwing that pick is harmless,just because dude fumbled doesnt make it harmless.And the wind had nothing to do with it,it looked like he threw it into triple coverage.
The only reason his picks the past 2 games havent been backbreakers is pure frickin luck.
I cannot believe your reasoning,you cannot possibly be being objective about Kirk.If he was playing for another team I do not believe you guys would think Kirk was that great.
Going back to my comparison with Hoyer.Hoyer threw for 400 yards yesterday with 2 tds and no picks.Hoyer and Cousins career stats are very similar.Cousins has slightly higher td percentage but Hoyer has lower int percentage.Plus Hoyer played for freaking Cleveland.
Am I saying I would rather have Hoyer then Cousins,no I'm not but that's probably because I'm a skins fan,I'm a Cousins fan,and therefore I am not looking at it objectively.
Can you imagine Brian Hoyer making 17 million a yr and being considered a franchise qb? I can't either but yet we are thinking that about Kirk.
If that guy doesnt fumble the int do you still think we win that game?
Last week when Cleveland rb fumbled{and from what I read Cleveland actually recovered and it was a blown call,lucky again}do you think we win that game if we dont get that fumble? I dont think we would have won either game.
Just because we won both games does not give Kirk a free pass
But I can see from your post we are not going to agree on this subject,l just hope Kirk's luck will continue in the future when he throws more backbreaking ints
HTTR

I can honestly say this is a fair post. I think what I could say about yesterday is it could have been a backbreaker. He got bailed out by the fumble into the end zone. But there was still a long way to go in that game so he could have overcome it. But that pick, and some of his other ones have just totally shifted the momentum back to the other team, when it seemed like we were getting control of the game. Hoping he can stop making those mistakes.

I don't really get hung up on the tag and the money. It was perfect timing for Cousins. Just because he's making 20 million doesn't mean he's going to all of a sudden put the team on his back. He's just not that type of player. Not sure why it's so hard for some of you to realize that, or when he misses a pass it's.."well he's making 20 million, so he should be better!" That's just ridiculous.

So far is there a big difference between Hoyer and Cousins? I'd say probably not. If you put Hoyer in this offense he'd probably have similar numbers to Cousins. And I have always been pro Cousins, but that is a fair comparison.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

OMG really? Being up by 40 points and throwing that pick is harmless,just because dude fumbled doesnt make it harmless.And the wind had nothing to do with it,it looked like he threw it into triple coverage.
The only reason his picks the past 2 games havent been backbreakers is pure frickin luck.
I cannot believe your reasoning,you cannot possibly be being objective about Kirk.If he was playing for another team I do not believe you guys would think Kirk was that great.
Going back to my comparison with Hoyer.Hoyer threw for 400 yards yesterday with 2 tds and no picks.Hoyer and Cousins career stats are very similar.Cousins has slightly higher td percentage but Hoyer has lower int percentage.Plus Hoyer played for freaking Cleveland.
Am I saying I would rather have Hoyer then Cousins,no I'm not but that's probably because I'm a skins fan,I'm a Cousins fan,and therefore I am not looking at it objectively.
Can you imagine Brian Hoyer making 17 million a yr and being considered a franchise qb? I can't either but yet we are thinking that about Kirk.
If that guy doesnt fumble the int do you still think we win that game?
Last week when Cleveland rb fumbled{and from what I read Cleveland actually recovered and it was a blown call,lucky again}do you think we win that game if we dont get that fumble? I dont think we would have won either game.
Just because we won both games does not give Kirk a free pass
But I can see from your post we are not going to agree on this subject,l just hope Kirk's luck will continue in the future when he throws more backbreaking ints
HTTR

He didn't throw into triple coverage though. He threw it to Reed because he read a cover 2 she'll and had Reed on a post which was the right read. Mosley made a great play and jumped a mile into the air to catch it.

He's completed that same ball on the same coverage 50x Atleast. He just missed that one.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

OMG really? Being up by 40 points and throwing that pick is harmless,just because dude fumbled doesnt make it harmless.And the wind had nothing to do with it,it looked like he threw it into triple coverage.
The only reason his picks the past 2 games havent been backbreakers is pure frickin luck.
I cannot believe your reasoning,you cannot possibly be being objective about Kirk.If he was playing for another team I do not believe you guys would think Kirk was that great.
Going back to my comparison with Hoyer.Hoyer threw for 400 yards yesterday with 2 tds and no picks.Hoyer and Cousins career stats are very similar.Cousins has slightly higher td percentage but Hoyer has lower int percentage.Plus Hoyer played for freaking Cleveland.
Am I saying I would rather have Hoyer then Cousins,no I'm not but that's probably because I'm a skins fan,I'm a Cousins fan,and therefore I am not looking at it objectively.
Can you imagine Brian Hoyer making 17 million a yr and being considered a franchise qb? I can't either but yet we are thinking that about Kirk.
If that guy doesnt fumble the int do you still think we win that game?
Last week when Cleveland rb fumbled{and from what I read Cleveland actually recovered and it was a blown call,lucky again}do you think we win that game if we dont get that fumble? I dont think we would have won either game.
Just because we won both games does not give Kirk a free pass
But I can see from your post we are not going to agree on this subject,l just hope Kirk's luck will continue in the future when he throws more backbreaking ints
HTTR

Things that matter... no points came from the INT, and we won the game.

Everything else is just noise, including this odd hard-on you seem to have for Hoyer. Go root for Chicago or something. Who cares about Hoyer.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

To me backbreakers usually end up with losses, not 3 game streaks with 2 road wins. His pick yesterday was as harmless as they get because of the fumble.

That was a bonehead throw backed up against his end zone. His eyes give cousins away

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

That was a bonehead throw backed up against his end zone. His eyes give cousins away

If there wasnt a fumble after that pick we lose that game.
One interception from a QB in one game isnt that bad, but in a low scoring affair like we had it could be a killer.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

During this 3 game win streak he's completed 69% of his throws for 739 yards, 6 TDs, 3 INTs... with two road wins against the 2-0 Giants and the 3-1 Ravens. So WTF are people still complaining about??

"He can't beat a winning team" remember matt? So now it's the "he is lucky to win those games " at the end of the season he'll have 4500 yards 28 tds or so and 12 ints.. 65% percentage. He's going to be fine.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

"He can't beat a winning team" remember matt? So now it's the "he is lucky to win those games " at the end of the season he'll have 4500 yards 28 tds or so and 12 ints.. 65% percentage. He's going to be fine.

Agreed. And Those numbers are so much better than fine. Lol.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

"He can't beat a winning team" remember matt? So now it's the "he is lucky to win those games " at the end of the season he'll have 4500 yards 28 tds or so and 12 ints.. 65% percentage. He's going to be fine.

I agree. I said that this would be the first "real" winning team, and barring the wind, he played a solid game and we won. That argument is now gone. Thank goodness.

As for the end of the year stats, I would take those numbers in a heartbeat.

[rocnrik]

The deal with Cousins is He has A lot of time to throw and maybe the best WR/TEcombo in the league. the down is no running game,iffy play calling and his knack for making the bad throw/interception . I can understand if he were being harassed from the pocket but it seems he plays better when he is hurried..go figure. And then you see ROOKIE QB's having a lot of success on other teams and it makes you wonder about Cousins..Hopefully by the end of this season we will know what we have in Cousins.

[punch it in]

Oh man. Hoyer has never sniffed a year like KC had in 2015. If you put Hoyer on this team he would still not.