Redskins Offseason Thread

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by WillH

BTW, Alex Boone is a Guard with a lot of experience. He hasn't landed anywhere in FA. Should the Skins kick the tires on him? He had a PFF grade in the 70s two years ago, last year on a one year deal his grade was just 39.5 (66th overall G) which was still higher than Lauvao at 38.3 (70th overall G). Doesn't sound great, but would you rather he compete for Guard than Nsekhe?

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Already posted this in another thread, but here are available veterans G/C that could be more efficient than Boone:

Jahri Evans (G, 34 years old, 71,7 PFF grade), Mike Person (C/G, 29y, 70,5pff), Brian Schwenke (C/G, 27y, 67,1pff) are all available and could be decent short term solutions to complete our OL!

(by comparison, Lauvao 30 years old, has a 38,3 grade, and Kouandjio, 26 has a 49...).

Dream scenario would be UDFA G Sean Welsh balling out...

[MTK]

How about Kouandjio balling out for a dream scenario?

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by MTK

How about Kouandjio balling out for a dream scenario?

Winning the lottery is more likely.

I would take Evans for a year and draft a guard next year.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by MTK

How about Kouandjio balling out for a dream scenario?

Yeah... but I was looking for a plausible dream scenario

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Yeah... but I was looking for a plausible dream scenario

Yeah but what’s more plausible, Kouandjio putting it together or an UDFA winning the job?

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by MTK

Yeah but what’s more plausible, Kouandjio putting it together or an UDFA winning the job?

I think my first post may have been misleading, let's put it this way:

The way I see it, we know what we're getting with Arie, a decent player who can pass protect rather consistently but won't open lanes in the run game.
With the UDFA, we don't know yet what he can do, so while he could be cut a week into training camp, we're still allowed to hope he would be an upgrade... that's why called it dream scenario.

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[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by MTK

Yeah but what’s more plausible, Kouandjio putting it together or an UDFA winning the job?

We should not be in this position.
We did not address our biggest or second biggest need in our starting line up for a second year in a row. Who in our fucking awesome FO thought Kouandijo or a UDFA starting at LG is conducive to winning?
Why do we we cheap out at Oline but have millions for an oft injured 3rd string WR or an old slot CB?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

We should not be in this position.

We did not address our biggest or second biggest need in our starting line up for a second year in a row. Who in our fucking awesome FO thought Kouandijo or a UDFA starting at LG is conducive to winning?

Why do we we cheap out at Oline but have millions for an oft injured 3rd string WR or an old slot CB?

I understand your frustration, but i think you’re overreacting a bit.

- looking over our roster, left guard is the only position where we do not have a clear starter and backup. That’s far better than where we have been in a long long time

- if theres any position to have questions about, Id say offensive guard is one of, if not the “best” one. Offensive guard is the most easily replaceable position in the NFL. We have 2 other offensive lineman who are arguably top 3 in their position and a 3rd (moses) who is near pro-bowl level. Even without the left guard situation resolved, i think most of the other teams in the league would swap o-lines with us in a heartbeat.

- the start of the season is 4 months away. Almost every year, we pick up a surprise cut late in the offseason who becomes a key contributor to this team. Really good guards are going to get cut by other teams in Salary-cap moves.

- even jf we don’t find an adequate guard among the guys on the roster, and even if we don’t sign a veteran later in the offseason, Shawn Lauvao is out there. He’s be more than serviceable as our “last resort” option.

In the end, Its simply too early to panic about the guard spot. If we’re in the same spot in mid July, then I’ll get concerned.


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[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by MTK

How about Kouandjio balling out for a dream scenario?

I think it is completely realistic he will be better than last year. His physical peak should start meeting the mental part during this part of his career.

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[skinsfan69]

McClain was just turrible. A big, slow, non athletic fuck. I wonder what they saw on tape that made them think he was worth giving big money to. He just seemed like once he got paid he didn't care.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

McClain was just turrible. A big, slow, non athletic fuck. I wonder what they saw on tape that made them think he was worth giving big money to. He just seemed like once he got paid he didn't care.

What's aggravating is we paid him essentially 7.5 mill for one season and he was a journyman who had 1 decent season with the cowboy. The red flags were there....but yet here we are without a Left Guard.

people bitch about paying people, but we paid 7.5 mil for a guy who played like shit....gave us nothing. How about put that money towards a more proven player?

[skinsfan69]

I think an UFA could beat out Arie. Also there's Kalis who started a ton of games at Michigan. He could take the job too. Arie is who he is at this point.

[MTK]

Man some of you guys love crying over spilled milk. Not every move works out, shit happens

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

Man some of you guys love crying over spilled milk. Not every move works out, shit happens

Yeah I get that...but McClain and Stacy McGee really didn't put it together. So really 2 moves at the same position. 1 I can deal with...but 2 fairly large contracts in free agency same year?

Come'on, that's weak.

McClain was terrible...McGee was JAG. that's some serious scrilla for the worst run defense in the league.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yeah I get that...but McClain and Stacy McGee really didn't put it together. So really 2 moves at the same position. 1 I can deal with...but 2 fairly large contracts in free agency same year?



Come'on, that's weak.



McClain was terrible...McGee was JAG. that's some serious scrilla for the worst run defense in the league.

Enter Payne and Settle...

They obviously saw the problem and addressed it, hopefully the results are much better