Redskins vs. Jaguars Thread

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by redsk1

A couple of thoughts about the game:

I'm not too worried about the offense last night. Cooley dropped a ball which he should have caught (he doesn't drop many). Thomas probably should have caught that ball passed to him even though JC was a little late. Of course, everyone is a little concerned but let's wait to judge.

Fincher played his a** off last night.

Wasn't J. Tryon the one talking a bunch of smack about taking a starting position from someone? He didn't look too good out there.

Whoever is returning kicks better not see a real game this year (i know he won't).

Where was Malcolm Kelly?

John Madden has a man crush on Colt Brennan.

Thank god it's the regular season now!!

Kelly was held out after having swelling in his knee. Zorn said they've got to get a "plan" for him. Lavar said on comcast after the game that he'd never heard a coach say that at a presser and he joked that Malcom Kelly shouldn't look for a house.

I wonder if Zorn is already thinking IR for Kelly, maybe his knee needs more than the surgery he had on it this month.

[doughtydoubter]

you know ill say this..im a firm believer in jc.

[MTK]

All I'm gonna say is thank god the preseason is over. Finally we're headed for some football that counts.

[hesscl34]

It sure will be nice to see Landry out there again. Doughty (last night) could have laid a guy out and put him in the stands, but he chose not to. ST would have knocked him out.

[MTK]

I think starting the season on PUP is likely for Kelly, unless his knee is seriously f'd up. Hopefully he just needs some rest and more rehab.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think starting the season on PUP is likely for Kelly, unless his knee is seriously f'd up. Hopefully he just needs some rest and more rehab.

This is an excellent observation.
This would mean he wouldn't play until week 6..and that isn't gunna happen anyways.

The way I see it, here is the depth chart for WR in terms of reliablity right now:
Moss
ARE
Thrash
McMullen
Mann
Devin Thomas
Malcolm Kelly

Obviously they are not going to carry 7 wideouts, nor are they going to cut our 2 draft picks, nor, in my opinon, can they risk only the top 3 vets and the rookies since they either suck or are injured.

So, if they dont put Kelly on the PUP list, they will likely keep McMullen as insurance as he has some experience and has shown 3rd down receiver capability....the difficult point is Mann is right there with him.
So putting Kelly on the PUP gives the skins the opportunity to keep both McMullen and Mann on the roster, then when he comes back they can keep the best of the 2.
If McMullen is better, they can drop Mann to the practice squad, otherwise they cut McMullen (I dont think he is eligible for PS)

To me....that sounds like a "plan"....perhaps the same one Zorn was referring to....

Good observation Matty

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Did anyone also see on that one play where Erasmus James actually got tackled by the OT right before he sacked the QB and it didn't get called?

[firstdown]

Well I have back JC ever sense he was drafted and I laughed at people jumping all over Colt. Well i'm starting to stop laughing and have the feeling that JC might not be the guy to run this team. I'm still in his corner but he needs to pick up his game and show improvement with each game. I'm not asking for him to lead us to the SB this year but he better show more then what he has over the past three weeks. It just seems that Colt has that swager about him which shows on the field. Even though he has failed to score in the past couple of game it just seems that the O clicks better when he is out there. The one person who looked like they where playing to make the team last night was Justin. Our run D looked good last night but it reminds me of our D back in 2006. Remember when we would hold a team to 3rd and long only to give up a big play.

[over the mountain]

^^^ yeah firstdown my thoughts exactly about JC. I am just surprised it seems he still has the same bad mechanics since we drafted him. Holding the ball low, takes a big wind up to throw it, doesnt seem to have the mental IQ to read and pick apart defenses. JC does have alot of positives aswell but he might be years away from "it" clicking in his head. Ive said this before and noone has bit on it yet but . . if zorn doesnt feel confident with JC after this year, does he get to handpick his own qb next offseason giving campbell 1 more year to show us he is elite while zorns qb develops? in this league i dont think you can be complacent with average at qb.

go skins!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

^^^ yeah firstdown my thoughts exactly about JC. I am just surprised it seems he still has the same bad mechanics since we drafted him. Holding the ball low, takes a big wind up to throw it, doesnt seem to have the mental IQ to read and pick apart defenses. JC does have alot of positives aswell but he might be years away from "it" clicking in his head. Ive said this before and noone has bit on it yet but . . if zorn doesnt feel confident with JC after this year, does he get to handpick his own qb next offseason giving campbell 1 more year to show us he is elite while zorns qb develops? in this league i dont think you can be complacent with average at qb.

go skins!

I think even if in two years or even next year he wanted to go with his own QB, let's say Colt, it's in the best interests of everyone that he develop Campbell to the fullest extent. If not for us, then at least to drive his value up for another team.

[irish]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think even if in two years or even next year he wanted to go with his own QB, let's say Colt, it's in the best interests of everyone that he develop Campbell to the fullest extent. If not for us, then at least to drive his value up for another team.

The announcers last night sure made it sound like Colt is Zorn's handpicked guy.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by irish

The announcers last night sure made it sound like Colt is Zorn's handpicked guy.

They certainly did.. We should all prepare for Colt Brennan mania, because it's only a matter of time....

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

They certainly did.. We should all prepare for Colt Brennan mania, because it's only a matter of time....

All prepare for Colt Brennan mania? It's here in full force. It's nothing new; it seems like each year the Washington faithful go through this "but....but....but the backup is better" drama/bs. I'm so tired of it. I swear, some people actually want to see JC fail.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think even if in two years or even next year he wanted to go with his own QB, let's say Colt, it's in the best interests of everyone that he develop Campbell to the fullest extent. If not for us, then at least to drive his value up for another team.

I think the team is committed to JC for this year and next at the least, which conveniently enough will take him to the end of his rookie contract. If he's not the answer at the end of 2009 both sides move on and you've got Colt entering year 3 and hopefully ready to compete for the job. If JC is the answer they re-sign him and life is good.

[memphisskin]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

^^^ yeah firstdown my thoughts exactly about JC. I am just surprised it seems he still has the same bad mechanics since we drafted him. Holding the ball low, takes a big wind up to throw it, doesnt seem to have the mental IQ to read and pick apart defenses. JC does have alot of positives aswell but he might be years away from "it" clicking in his head. Ive said this before and noone has bit on it yet but . . if zorn doesnt feel confident with JC after this year, does he get to handpick his own qb next offseason giving campbell 1 more year to show us he is elite while zorns qb develops? in this league i dont think you can be complacent with average at qb.

go skins!

I think you're way off base on the mental IQ part. Unless you're picking up something on your tv set that has escaped Gibbs (3 diff SB winning qbs), Cerrato (cut his teeth around Young, Montana), and now Zorn (Hasselbeck). It's football, he's a qb, he and Zorn will figure it out.

There is no way to tell if a qb will be average or not. Top three qbs in the league right now, 1 was the #1 overall pick, 1 was a 6th rounder, the other wasn't drafted at all. There is no magic formula, only gut feelings, educated guesses, and taking a chance and believing in your guy. If you don't believe in Jason Campbell, that's your choice. But can we at least let the season play out before we bury Campbell please?

HTTR