New Orleans Saints/Washington Redskins: Bounty Hunters

[Ruhskins]

As I've said this before, regardless of what people complain about, the NFL is changing and taking safety into consideration in their rules and policies, though I would argue in a flawed manner (ex: developing rules to protect players, yet still pushing for an 18-game season).

It amazes me that people want to dismiss this whole situation and sweep it under the rug. In the end, Gregg Williams F*CKED UP many times over. He f*cked up by starting this bounty program, and worst of all he f*cked up when his superiors and the league told him "STOP DOING THIS" and he didn't stop. I have nothing against GW as a person, but I would definitely understand it if he never coaches again. He has cost the Saints a lot, and he has pretty much killed his reputation. I'd be curious if any team would be willing to take a chance on him.

[JoeRedskin]

Agreed Matty.

Even if everyone is doing it -- does that make it right? Does that make it less reprehensible?

Smootsmack said pages ago - reading some of the responses in this thread is just dispiriting.

[Hog1]

I was happy when he failed to get the Skins HC gig after Joe2. Mostly because I just think he's an egotistical.....dick. I had no idea he was the NFL's Marquis De Sade.......

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I was happy when he failed to get the Skins HC gig after Joe2. Mostly because I just think he's an egotistical.....dick. I had no idea he was the NFL's Marquis De Sade.......

Great post!! Williams is a dick.

[Ruhskins]

I still don't understand how people try to defend this.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I still don't understand how people try to defend this.

No idea.

All I'm going to say about the LaVar hit on Aikman is #1 that's a clean shot. And yeah, it is sad that multiple concussions ended a great career.

[Chico23231]

Darren Woodson basically said most of what you heard from Williams is typical of any Saturday night defense meeting. It was the Crabtree reference, the concussion references that were way overboard.

Its disgusting and not defending it, but i think statements like "kill the head, body will die" "take his ass out" "lay him out or put him down" "knock the sh*t out of him" "make him pay"....that language is common place at every level

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Darren Woodson basically said most of what you heard from Williams is typical of any Saturday night defense meeting. It was the Crabtree reference, the concussion references that were way overboard.

Its disgusting and not defending it, but i think statements like "kill the head, body will die" "take his ass out" "lay him out or put him down" "knock the sh*t out of him" "make him pay"....that language is common place at every level

Yeah that's not the part I don't like, it's the part where he targets specific body parts on the players for the 49ers. Aka "go after Frank Gore's head" "Crabtree's ACL" "Davis' ankles" etc.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I still don't understand how people try to defend this.

Amazing isn't it?

[CultBrennan59]

And to think we wanted him to be head coach..(or at least most of us did)

[Monkeydad]

With Goodell's campaign on concussions lately, directing your players to target heads, especially known-concussed heads is just asking for a big punishment.

Morals aside, Williams showed no common sense. He had to know the Commish would crack down on him very hard for this.

The ACLs and other directives were just over the top.

[Chico23231]

Gregg Williams told New Orleans Saints to hurt San Francisco 49ers in speech - ESPN

Golic with a great quote from a Giants player basically saying the samething about taking out kyle williams. dont agree with it, but just saying league wide

[NC_Skins]

Brian Billick, NFL - ESPN

Interesting that Brian Billick doesn't think GW will ever coach again in the NFL. Good interview here with Mike & Mike and he's 100% spot on.

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Gregg Williams told New Orleans Saints to hurt San Francisco 49ers in speech - ESPN

Golic with a great quote from a Giants player basically saying the samething about taking out kyle williams. dont agree with it, but just saying league wide

On Gregg Williams: 4/6 - ESPN

Golic makes very good points in this broadcast. The violent speech is held in many NFL locker rooms across the league. The only thing disturbing to him (and me) was specifically talking about taking out the outer ACL and blows to the head.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Brian Billick, NFL - ESPN

Interesting that Brian Billick doesn't think GW will ever coach again in the NFL. Good interview here with Mike & Mike and he's 100% spot on.




On Gregg Williams: 4/6 - ESPN

Golic makes very good points in this broadcast. The violent speech is held in many NFL locker rooms across the league. The only thing disturbing to him (and me) was specifically talking about taking out the outer ACL and blows to the head.

Playing fast and hard is part of football- it's a violent game by nature. And encouraging guys to play fast and tough is I'm sure part of every locker room league wide. But encouraging guys to go for ACL tears and to "kill the head" of players that are dealing with concussions is so deplorable.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Gregg Williams told New Orleans Saints to hurt San Francisco 49ers in speech - ESPN

Golic with a great quote from a Giants player basically saying the samething about taking out kyle williams. dont agree with it, but just saying league wide

This was brought up before ,IMO....I would say the difference here is paying" the player to injure another player with a bonus or bounty.People keep leaving out the details ...and Golic is one of them...the Saints were told to stop ..over and over ,again and didn't.If I know a player is gun shy as Kyle Williams is...you hit him hard,not dirty but hard and let him start thinking to himself...I don't want to get hurt,he is now out of his game and I have done my job....and he can walk away.




P.S.

Golic is also a defensive player who played for Buddy Ryan...who loved this stuff,I would expect nothing else from him but to defend it.(to a point)