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Old 04-05-2014, 09:03 PM   #1
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Re: Redskins Sign DeSean Jackson

I agree, our WR's are amazing on paper. But we really can't be in the conversation for the best WR corps until we hit the field. WR's are made from the QB play, offensive scheme and offensive line protection. If we prove those things, we will be considered among the best.

I think the interesting part will be what happens if times are tough. If/when we're winning, it's easy. If we have a bad couple of games -- how will DJax and our team respond. Will they stick together or start pointing fingers...
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:41 PM   #2
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A guy like Marshall or Andre may have size on Pierre. But they dont have his jets. Not comparing but Pierre often finds seperation, on an elite level. Pierre is key on what made the Jax pickup so ridiculous for us because we already had a playmaker. Hes by far the most underrated #1 wr in the league. Its his heart and work ethic. Not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog. Im not gonna get into DJax i still think his attitude will hurt us at some point unless he grows up fast. But hell make plays and his presence just turned us into a juggernaut on offense.
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Old 04-07-2014, 07:45 AM   #3
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i think if anything theres good core of locker room guys on this team already/// i'd be more interested to see how THEY handle him.. rather than the coach
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Old 04-07-2014, 09:07 AM   #4
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I dont think its going to take too long for that drama fit to happen. From what I have been reading he was a complete and total locker rooom cancer in Philly. He was much more concerned about getting his catches and his rap label than the team winning. It will be interesting to see how he deals with a rookie coach and that rookie coach handles him.
I think Jackson has already said that Gruden has "street cred" since he ran Cincinatti's offense. He simply didn't buy into Kelly's vision, saw him as a college coach trying to fit his model onto NFL players.
I expect that Jackson will buy in for this season, given how the Skins played to his need to be wanted, and respected, when they made the all out push to get him.
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Old 04-07-2014, 11:08 AM   #5
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I think Jackson has already said that Gruden has "street cred" since he ran Cincinatti's offense. He simply didn't buy into Kelly's vision, saw him as a college coach trying to fit his model onto NFL players.
I expect that Jackson will buy in for this season, given how the Skins played to his need to be wanted, and respected, when they made the all out push to get him.
What gives me concern is that teams almost always seem to find a way to work with players and their various criminal activity but in this case Philly flat out told him to take a hike. It must have been really bad.

I always heard the a leopard cant change his spots, hopefull DJ changes.
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Old 04-07-2014, 11:20 AM   #6
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What gives me concern is that teams almost always seem to find a way to work with players and their various criminal activity but in this case Philly flat out told him to take a hike. It must have been really bad.

I always heard the a leopard cant change his spots, hopefull DJ changes.
True. In fact, Philly didn't just tell him to take a hike, Philly paid $6 mil. in deadcap to get rid of him.

You know you're an major asshole when someone else pays $6 mil. to make you go away.
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True. In fact, Philly didn't just tell him to take a hike, Philly paid $6 mil. in deadcap to get rid of him.

You know you're an major asshole when someone else pays $6 mil. to make you go away.
Deadcap does not mean they handed over $6M to Jackson as he was released. It just means they had to recognize $6M of the signing bonus previously paid to him on this season's books.
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Old 04-07-2014, 11:29 AM   #8
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True. In fact, Philly didn't just tell him to take a hike, Philly paid $6 mil. in deadcap to get rid of him.

You know you're an major asshole when someone else pays $6 mil. to make you go away.
They would have paid him $10.5 mil in real money to keep him. Most of this sounds like Kelly wanted to make the point of my way or the highway. I think Kelly believes he can plug anyone in and his offense will work.
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Old 04-07-2014, 11:46 AM   #9
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They would have paid him $10.5 mil in real money to keep him. Most of this sounds like Kelly wanted to make the point of my way or the highway. I think Kelly believes he can plug anyone in and his offense will work.

That is where Kelly is wrong. Every year players come out of the draft fast as Jackson but not producing.
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Old 04-07-2014, 11:52 AM   #10
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They would have paid him $10.5 mil in real money to keep him. Most of this sounds like Kelly wanted to make the point of my way or the highway. I think Kelly believes he can plug anyone in and his offense will work.
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What gives me concern is that teams almost always seem to find a way to work with players and their various criminal activity but in this case Philly flat out told him to take a hike. It must have been really bad.

I always heard the a leopard cant change his spots, hopefull DJ changes.
Possibly, or it could mean that Kelly feels like he can't build a long-term stable winning franchise with someone who doesn't buy into his program.

I don't think alleged criminal activity had all that much to do with the decision to release him. The story just offered the Eagles some very timely cover.
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Old 04-07-2014, 11:30 AM   #12
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Possibly, or it could mean that Kelly feels like he can't build a long-term stable winning franchise with someone who doesn't buy into his program.

I don't think alleged criminal activity had all that much to do with the decision to release him. The story just offered the Eagles some very timely cover.
I wasnt saying DJ was involved in criminal activity . I was saying that teams find ways to work with players who are involved in criminal activity.
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What gives me concern is that teams almost always seem to find a way to work with players and their various criminal activity but in this case Philly flat out told him to take a hike. It must have been really bad.

I always heard the a leopard cant change his spots, hopefull DJ changes.
Do you really think the whole.........potential for locker room problems, etc was overlooked by Bruce, Jay & Co. I really can't imagine the scenario where they took him and....threw caution to the wind. Whatever he is or is not is well documented in the bowels of Skinsville central.
Unless Bruce or Jay are incompetent or just stupid?
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Kirk Cousins......locker room...Cancer
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Old 04-07-2014, 11:37 AM   #15
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Locker room cancer is a term that gets tossed around way too often. Kirk Cousins? Really? WTF.

As far as DJ goes he has his share of supporters too. Obviously he didn't click with Kelly for whatever reasons. Ultimately I think the decision came down to $$ and egos.
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