The Never Ending Thread

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by jsarno

You could always sleep at work....homer.

It would be my luck that something would break while I was asleep.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by angryssg

It would be my luck that something would break while I was asleep.

What would break?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by angryssg

Perhaps. I do not think that he will have that problem this season.

I hope you're right, but why do you think that?

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I hope you're right, but why do you think that?

I think that there was alot of pressure on him last year. After the offseason he has had time to regroup. When you get labled for dropping balls the most impossible thing for you to do is catch a ball. People tend to start thinking about it too much. (Personal Experience). I think that he will be fine this year.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by jsarno

What would break?

The stuff that I am supposed to be making sure works.

[KLHJ2]

Carlos Rogers is a good DB. This year he will become great.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by angryssg

I think that there was alot of pressure on him last year. After the offseason he has had time to regroup. When you get labled for dropping balls the most impossible thing for you to do is catch a ball. People tend to start thinking about it too much. (Personal Experience). I think that he will be fine this year.

I would tend to agree...but these are professional athletes, it can't all be in his head.
Imagine if he caught 5 or 6 of those 9 that he should have had...we'd be talking about how good Rogers is.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by angryssg

Carlos Rogers is a good DB. This year he will become great.

I hope you're right...we need him.

ps- anyone can look good in a highlight film...even Brunell.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I would tend to agree...but these are professional athletes, it can't all be in his head.
Imagine if he caught 5 or 6 of those 9 that he should have had...we'd be talking about how good Rogers is.

The way I look at it is that it was 9 passes that opponents couldnt catch either. He will get his picks. I think it was Dieon Sanders who once said "If you catch the ones that come straight to to you and break up the rest you will have 5-6 Ints a year."

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by angryssg

The way I look at it is that it was 9 passes that opponents couldnt catch either. He will get his picks. I think it was Dieon Sanders who once said "If you catch the ones that come straight to to you and break up the rest you will have 5-6 Ints a year."

Well, Rogers did have a good amount of PD's, and that generally means a good CB. I had very high expectations for him out of college...who knows, maybe the fact that everyone has counted him out will mean he will step up this year?

[jsarno]

Well, I'm off to bed.

Have a great night angry.

ps- did you ever get that info from your relatives?

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Well, Rogers did have a good amount of PD's, and that generally means a good CB. I had very high expectations for him out of college...who knows, maybe the fact that everyone has counted him out will mean he will step up this year?

I think that he will be a little more comfortable knowing that he has a little bit more help this year too.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Well, I'm off to bed.

Have a great night angry.

ps- did you ever get that info from your relatives?

I havent gotten their addresses yet. The bitch of it is they were in town 2 weeks ago when I was at my moms. I havent forgotten about you. I will give them a call today and get some emails for you.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Well, Rogers did have a good amount of PD's, and that generally means a good CB. I had very high expectations for him out of college...who knows, maybe the fact that everyone has counted him out will mean he will step up this year?

I looked up his stats because I got bored. He (Carlos Rogers) had 16 passes defensed with 1 INT last season.

To put it into perspective; Champ Bailey averages 12 passes defensed and almost 5 INT's a year. That's because the past two years he got 8 and 10 intercecptions which really boosted his average.

Deangelo Hall defensed 12 passes last season with 4 INT's. (PRO BOWL)
Rhonde Barber 13 with 3 (PRO BOWL)
Walt Harris 12 with 8 (PRO BOWL)
Lito Shepard 13 with 6 (PRO BOWL)

Just so that you know, an intercecption counts as a defensed pass. So had Carlos Rogers caught 5 more of the balls that he defensed; then he would have had 16 defensed passes with 6 INT's.

So you are right if Carlos catches a few more of them he will have Champ like numbers. But his passes defensed alone proves that he is already a good CB, he is just not great yet. In other words a solid number 1, but not a game breaker.

I am not saying that he is as elite as Champ is now, but given a few more years he just might be. I think that he will break out this season.

[BigSKINBauer]

^^well you have to also take into considersation that champ baily probably gets a lot of less balls thrown his way than does carlos. That is the definition of shutdown. I wonder if there is some stat out there that shows passes too and passes defensed/Ints