Campbell's numbers dont lie

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well at least Campbell haters will have a reason to bitch him out instead of stretching the truth and making shit up.

yeah but they won't overlook the 3 ints to see if he doesn't make that throw we don't win either. he did look bad in the first half.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Campbell played a terrible game, but threw two TDs to win the game.

I knew sooner or later Jason would have a game like this. It was ugly, he took chances and made a bunch of mistakes, but the team won.

Mostly I'm pissed I forgot to drop Horton and pick up Doughty in my IDP league :P

[Dirtbag59]

I honestly just want to see what Todd Collins can bring to the table, but I'll admit we should stick with JC for now.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I honestly just want to see what Todd Collins can bring to the table, but I'll admit we should stick with JC for now.

I was ready to call for Collins in the second half, but JC made some plays. Honestly, I don't think Collins brings much though.

[SC Skins Fan]

Campbell did not see the field at all today. He was a complete mess. The throw to Moss was fine and all, but it was a one-on-one, double move. He did not have to make any reads on that play. That was as bad a game as you will see from an NFL QB not named Jamarcus Russell (or maybe Josh Johnson). Point being, that is not a game that you get from a QB that is in his 5th season and is playing a horrible pass defense. The guy is a complete mess, mentally, physically, everything is bad. You are watching the end of Jason Campbell in Washington, D.C. Jimmy Clausen in 2010.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Campbell did not see the field at all today. He was a complete mess. The throw to Moss was fine and all, but it was a one-on-one, double move. He did not have to make any reads on that play. That was as bad a game as you will see from an NFL QB not named Jamarcus Russell (or maybe Josh Johnson). Point being, that is not a game that you get from a QB that is in his 5th season and is playing a horrible pass defense. The guy is a complete mess, mentally, physically, everything is bad. You are watching the end of Jason Campbell in Washington, D.C. Jimmy Clausen in 2010.

Has he beaten any ranked team this year? I actually saw a report on him when he was in high school. Very impressive kid. He might be our best bet with the injury to Bradford who I thought was the most NFl eady QB. But having a injury to your throwing shoulder is not a good thing. i.e., Chad Pennington

Tebow and McCoy are good because of their athleticsm. But they wont be able to run like they do in college. So that will take away some of their affectiveness.

So Clausen might be the best bet. But lets see how he does against USC. They have lost only one game and still aren't ranked int he BCS top 25. Says a lot. Need to see him in a big game.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Campbell did not see the field at all today. He was a complete mess. The throw to Moss was fine and all, but it was a one-on-one, double move. He did not have to make any reads on that play. That was as bad a game as you will see from an NFL QB not named Jamarcus Russell (or maybe Josh Johnson). Point being, that is not a game that you get from a QB that is in his 5th season and is playing a horrible pass defense. The guy is a complete mess, mentally, physically, everything is bad. You are watching the end of Jason Campbell in Washington, D.C. Jimmy Clausen in 2010.

As someone who watches Jimmy Clausen play every single week, I would say that he struggles with everything Jason Campbell does and then some. He's simply not the prospect Brady Quinn was coming out of the Weis system, and considering that hasn't gone well to this point, I'm not sure Clausen has pro potential.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

As someone who watches Jimmy Clausen play every single week, I would say that he struggles with everything Jason Campbell does and then some. He's simply not the prospect Brady Quinn was coming out of the Weis system, and considering that hasn't gone well to this point, I'm not sure Clausen has pro potential.

Great point and they aren't playing anyone. I am really not impressed with any of the QBs in the draft next year. Like I said I think DS and Vinny saw this. That's why they were going so hard after Cutler and Sanchez!!!

Bradford should have came out last year. We might have picked him up...But that's spilled milk. Do we still take a chance with him? I am iffy on that. Its not looking good in Free Agency or in the draft. We need a sure shot. If not he will get run out of town quick. But we also need a RB too and OLs. We are in a pickle and having a uncapped season may not even matter -- when it comes to gettin ga QB anyway. Because no one is out there. Should have kept Chase. Hope Colt learns something while he is on IR.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

As someone who watches Jimmy Clausen play every single week, I would say that he struggles with everything Jason Campbell does and then some. He's simply not the prospect Brady Quinn was coming out of the Weis system, and considering that hasn't gone well to this point, I'm not sure Clausen has pro potential.

I haven't watched Claussen play. That is frustrated speculation. But someone other than Jason Campbell will be QB next year. I know you really like the guy, but he is not getting a clear picture back there and I do not think he has all year. Holds the ball too long, no timing or rhythm in his game. You can blame Zorn for it if you like, I am fine with that explanation, but he is not the future at QB for this franchise. The numbers today just support what has been a problem all year. And this is coming from someone who was a big time Campbell fan for a long time.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I honestly just want to see what Todd Collins can bring to the table, but I'll admit we should stick with JC for now.

Campbell played pretty terribly today, no question. What do you think a 39 year old career backup brings to the table? There's a reason he's been a backup for 10+ years. Campbell gives us the best chance to win. Period.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Campbell played pretty terribly today, no question. What do you think a 39 year old career backup brings to the table? There's a reason he's been a backup for 10+ years. Campbell gives us the best chance to win. Period.

You're assuming that coaches are never wrong. In theory though Collins would bring a quicker release and wouldn't struggle as much when it comes to reading defenses. Again only theory but if you were to put Collins in that would be why. You're essentially giving up the big arm in hopes that you're putting in a QB that will be better able to dissect the defense.

[CRedskinsRule]

it's still Zorn talking about needing to get in a rythm, just call the game and let the players play. he talks like he needs a half just to figure out what the defense is going to do.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

it's still Zorn talking about needing to get in a rythm, just call the game and let the players play. he talks like he needs a half just to figure out what the defense is going to do.

I also think he needs to be the coach instead of trying to play through the QB. That might be the problem. Let the plays develop naturally. Dont tell him to look for a receiver. Tell him to make his progressions and create some type of progression drill or something. Where the are liek one mississippi next receiver two mississippi..something..LMAO (maybe not as long as a mississippi) But some type of timing mechanism. I don tknow I am not a coach. But he is a QB coach so he needs to come up with that. Don't tell him to go to anyone or this play is for this person or that person. Its for the person who is open.

Like D Hall said. "Coaches can't be players and players can't be coaches".

Which makes total sense.

[Counter-Tre]

Do I get any fantasy points for Campbell nailing the ref in the head with a pass?

[Chico23231]

JC was aweful today...but he is the type of QB who will have days like this. He will never be a star in this league, but we dont need him to be if Oline would play half-decent and we a group of recievers who didnt play like a bunch of colleges chumps. Our recieving corp has been a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE disappointment so far this year. We dont have a second receiver ever on the field. Thank god for Cooley.