Haynesworth fails conditioning test

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

The worst part of this whole ordeal is that it could have been avoided on day one if his fat, stupid ass would have just taken a piss before he came out the first time. Everybody said he smoked it the first run out and it's been downhill from there. No question in my mind that he's tanking it now to force Shanny's hand.

I feel the same way but if his knees show visible signs of swelling then I wouldn't consider it tanking.

[Kindoy]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

The worst part of this whole ordeal is that it could have been avoided on day one if his fat, stupid ass would have just taken a piss before he came out the first time. Everybody said he smoked it the first run out and it's been downhill from there. No question in my mind that he's tanking it now to force Shanny's hand.

that's what i'm saying. he's been tanking it from day 1. Al's going to pass it when he wants to so he has to practice as little as possible while still getting his money and playing time (which i don't think he really cares about too much either).

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Kindoy

that's what i'm saying. he's been tanking it from day 1. Al's going to pass it when he wants to so he has to practice as little as possible while still getting his money and playing time (which i don't think he really cares about too much either).

Albert Haynesworth is not a world-class manipulator. It's about time you stop making assumptions from that premise. He's a naive dude, and now it seems he's itching to pass the test before his knee is ready.

Besides, I'm curious about what exactly in the knee can be "conditioned" like muscles and stuff can be conditioned.

Actually, the above post is actually quite stupid since you only interpret one result without considering other events with regards to the situation.

[Kindoy]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Albert Haynesworth is not a world-class manipulator. It's about time you stop making assumptions from that premise. He's a naive dude, and now it seems he's itching to pass the test before his knee is ready.

Besides, I'm curious about what exactly in the knee can be "conditioned" like muscles and stuff can be conditioned.

Actually, the above post is actually quite stupid since you only interpret one result without considering other events with regards to the situation.

well it seems like you and Al are good friends. and if you're curious about the knee thing you should probably google it or something...

just because i didn't write out everything that i "considered" doesn't mean i didn't consider it. my opinion is my opinion, just as you are entitled to feel how you feel.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Kindoy

well it seems like you and Al are good friends. and if you're curious about the knee thing you should probably google it or something...

just because i didn't write out everything that i "considered" doesn't mean i didn't consider it. my opinion is my opinion, just as you are entitled to feel how you feel.

Argumentum ad hominem right from the get go. I didn't like Haynesworth silly antics in the offseason, especially when he had his chance to avoid being in the 3-4 if he really wanted to. But, these media firestorms are fertile ground for libel and defamation, territory I have no desire to wander into.

Besides, your statements have a "He has been blah blah" or "He is going to blah blah blah", which means that you are asserting a certain property to him, which means you are asserting a FACT. I dispute that your statement is actually FACT, and instead that is insuffcient evidence to deem it as fact, and that the actual facts point towards the opposite.
Yeah, it's quite obvious that Shanahan even allowing the possibility of letting him practice without needing to pass the test is a perfect indication of Albert malciously mailing it in, cooking it up, DESPITE advising from the medical staff. Sure, you can form opinions, but opinions formed from suspect assumptions deserve be critiqued, regardless of the subject matter's flaws. It makes perfect sense. Mike Shanahan, strict disciplinarian who should be just as angry with Haynesworth as he was with Plummer, yet he instead of squeezing the vicegrip tighter, allows the possibility of loosening it should the knee situation take a long enough time. It makes perfect sense. NOT.

And Albert Haynesworth, naive, immature, and maybe just a bit paranoid, probably felt the an anvil fall on his head as he realizes that most of the practice he's getting is at RDE. Like a little kid who tries too hard to make up for his mistake, he continues to dig himself a deeper hole, despite his an apparent desire .

"But these reporters don't know what they're talking about. Al is deliberately bombing because I WANNA BELIEVE IT. My judgement is right. Nice try, SCP, you're just best friends with Al Haynesworth. Your emotive ques tell me everything I need to know"

[Kindoy]

Al's lazy ass just doesn't want to practice.. it's really starting to piss me off. I tried to defend him, saying that Shanny is making this a big situation and Shanny is being stubborn trying to send a message... but eventually you have to just take the damn test. There is no reason he shouldn't have passed it already, now he's the one turning this into a big deal.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Kindoy

Al's lazy ass just doesn't want to practice.. it's really starting to piss me off. I tried to defend him, saying that Shanny is making this a big situation and Shanny is being stubborn trying to send a message... but eventually you have to just take the damn test. There is no reason he shouldn't have passed it already, now he's the one turning this into a big deal.

From Shanahan's comment this doesn't seem to be the case. Besides, the more times he fails, the more that it looks bad on him (if that is even possible anymore). As some people have said, he will pass eventually or at least he will end up in practice, it's just whenever Shanahan decides; which I don't have a problem with.

[Kindoy]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

From Shanahan's comment this doesn't seem to be the case. Besides, the more times he fails, the more that it looks bad on him (if that is even possible anymore). As some people have said, he will pass eventually or at least he will end up in practice, it's just whenever Shanahan decides; which I don't have a problem with.

i don't think it's possible for him to look worse, but it's not like he really cares. There was just an interesting topic on Around the Horn... if Al never passes the test and sits the whole season out who would be the winner? Al getting paid zillions of dollars to sit on the sideline or Shanny for sticking to his guns?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Kindoy

i don't think it's possible for him to look worse, but it's not like he really cares. There was just an interesting topic on Around the Horn... if Al never passes the test and sits the whole season out who would be the winner? Al getting paid zillions of dollars to sit on the sideline or Shanny for sticking to his guns?

I read somewhere that the team technically could put AH on the PUP list or something like that which would keep him from playing here or anywhere and allow them to call him back up when they were ready. I kinda got the impression it might even effect his salary however I could be wrong about that. But in any event it would embarrassse him a little..... maybe. lol.

[Dirtbag59]

Let me get this straight. Docket is 290 pounds yet still has less than 10% body fat? That's freaking insane.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I read somewhere that the team technically could put AH on the PUP list or something like that which would keep him from playing here or anywhere and allow them to call him back up when they were ready. I kinda got the impression it might even effect his salary however I could be wrong about that. But in any event it would embarrassse him a little..... maybe. lol.

if thats true, then i hope thats exactly what the skins do. i say screw fat al, the money has already been paid so screw it. let fat al just rott away, maybe even rott his career away. who really cares anymore? i sure don't.

[12thMan]

Whatever the case, he ain't learning the defense sitting on the sidelines and hitting the treadmill.

[SirClintonPortis]

Actually, Albert did try to run it today, but it acted up on the 3rd leg of the first trial.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

I guess you could be right, but I thought there was some actual physical evidence that the trainers saw? Swelling in his knee. I am not disagreeing with you either.

[GusFrerotte]

I mean sure the knee could be an issue, but why keep trying to do it, if it is an issue? Just tell the coaches you are having knee problems and deflate the hype/story and just wait a couple weeks. He can observe from the sidelines and study his playbook til the swelling goes down or he gets treated.