Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013 Part II

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Signing urlacher would be something vinny would do. Probably give him a 30 million dollar contract too. I think the next linebacker to play for the skins will be drafted and developed by the skins, at least they will do that if they are smart. Fletcher does need to be phased out and replaced though. Sad reality of the NFL.

Not sure I was championing for Urlacher's signing, more of pointing out that if Chicago wouldn't even keep their future HoFer for 3 mil, than why the hell are we keeping Fletch for over 5+ mil? Urlacher statistically rated better than Fletcher did last season. I would rather have Urlacher at 2.5 mil than Fletcher at 5.9 mil.

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Those 3 years he's missed games were in the past 3 years.

Uhh....wut?


Not sure you quite understand, so let me put it another way.

Urlacher missed games in only 3 years of his 14 year career. Those 3 years were 2004, 2009, 2012. Not sue how those 3 years were in the past 3 years. Did you not look at the link to his stat page?

Now, your claim is he misses games every year isn't just far fetched, it's ridiculous.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Not sure I was championing for Urlacher's signing, more of pointing out that if Chicago wouldn't even keep their future HoFer for 3 mil, than why the hell are we keeping Fletch for over 5+ mil? Urlacher statistically rated better than Fletcher did last season. I would rather have Urlacher at 2.5 mil than Fletcher at 5.9 mil.







Uhh....wut?


Not sure you quite understand, so let me put it another way.

Urlacher missed games in only 3 years of his 14 year career. Those 3 years were 2004, 2009, 2012. Not sue how those 3 years were in the past 3 years. Did you not look at the link to his stat page?

Now, your claim is he misses games every year isn't just far fetched, it's ridiculous.

I just go off of recent memory. I know he had a wrist injury which he missed time and I may be getting that year and another year mixed up with missing lots of games. He is not what he used to be. Ill pass on him unless he wants a vet min contract.

[That Guy]

flecth was pretty bad while he was hurt for the first 7 games or so. he was better at the end of last year. that said, sooner or later someone else is going to have to take his place.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

we've retained 21 of 22 starters on a playoff team that showed dramatic improvement in the 2nd half of the season. Our only loss was a mediocre starting cornerback. we've added some cheap depth, resigned our core guys, and the draft hasnt even happened yet. Despite the cap penalty, its hard for me not to be optomistic about our chances entering the 2013 season.

Couldn't agree more. And I'll take your one mediocre starting cb and raise you two stud d linemen. With the addition of carriker and osackpo returning from injury our d line should be much improved. And with Davis now returning on offense that's another upgrade over last year. All in all I agree with you it's hard not to be a little bit optimistic about our upcoming season.

[diehardskin2982]

We already have an aged vetran in the middle, I don't see the point in adding another. Bringing in a young guy to learn behind Fletch on the other hand is a great idea.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

We already have an aged vetran in the middle, I don't see the point in adding another. Bringing in a young guy to learn behind Fletch on the other hand is a great idea.

We already have a young MLB behind London he got hurt against the Cowboys in Dallas. His name is Keenan Robinson out of UT. He is coming back from a pec injury. He is nice against the pass and very athletic.

[CRedskinsRule]

so any word on what FDavis contract is? and any word on Winfield?

Wouldn't surprise me to learn TW restructured to clear room for FDavis. I just get the sense that he Fred and Griffin have strong bonds amongst them

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

so any word on what FDavis contract is? and any word on Winfield?

Wouldn't surprise me to learn TW restructured to clear room for FDavis. I just get the sense that he Fred and Griffin have strong bonds amongst them

No word on FDs contract other than its a 1 year deal. And Winfield according to John Keim and the other twitter redskin bloggers is reportedly vacationing and will take his time deciding between us, Minnesota and Denver (whom he hasn't reportedly visited yet). He could sign in the next couple of hours. He could sign in the next couple of weeks. Don't hold your breath.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

No word on FDs contract other than its a 1 year deal. And Winfield according to John Keim and the other twitter redskin bloggers is reportedly vacationing and will take his time deciding between us, Minnesota and Denver (whom he hasn't reportedly visited yet). He could sign in the next couple of hours. He could sign in the next couple of weeks. Don't hold your breath.

thx

[The Goat]

Per the criticism of Fletch, especially regarding his tackle stats, allow me to retort.

When we run the more traditional 3-4 base, especially on early downs, you have to account for the fact we don't have a D line that commands multiple double-teams, and sometimes not even one double-team. Bowen is probably our best D lineman, and while I've seen o lines assign two blockers to him it's not consistent because a good LT will handle Bowen alone. There's certainly nobody on the D-line who offensive lines consistently see fit to assign two blockers. In short, there's always, always at least one o-lineman, and often two o-lineman headed to the 2nd level to block and they obviously key on Fletch.

Compare that to the D lines of Pitt and Baltimore, both having personnel up front always requiring two blockers. And the bottom line is something I've said a long time:
We...don't...have...the...right...personnel to run the 3-4 successfully. Period. If our base front 7 was always Kerrigan, Cofield, Turd Ferguson, Orakpo on the line and Riley, Fletcher, Rob Jackson behind we'd be a better run-stopping defense and most definitely a better pressure defense.

Regardless, our run defense isn't as bad as this one stat would lead someone to believe. Most of the time when Fletch gets blocked Riley or another steps into the gap to make the tackle, so focusing on this one stat is like staring at a tree in the forest. Secondary was/is the real problem, and that has everything to do with lacking a FS who can capitalize on bad throws etc.

[12thMan]

@corryjoel Fred Davis' one-year deal is worth up to $3.75M ($1.5M signing bonus, $1M base salary & $1.25M in incentives).

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

@corryjoel Fred Davis' one-year deal is worth up to $3.75M ($1.5M signing bonus, $1M base salary & $1.25M in incentives).

Assume the incentives are NLTBE for cap purposes (otherwise, we'd be over the cap), so we're back under $1 million of cap room now.

[diehardskin2982]

Grimes deal may raise the price on Winfield

[Dirtbag59]

Great, the woman beater is back.

[ethat001]

Love the FDavis signing. But was reading articles about Achille's ruptures, and this is still not a sure thing.. 1 out of 3 Achille's injuries don't ever play again in NFL, and the ones that make it back are usually limited. FDavis is still limping and Shanahan is hoping for him to be "80-90%" of what he was.

“If you can come back at 80 percent, that’s still pretty good”. Shanahan said. “You’re shooting for 90 percent, but very seldom do you come back at 100 percent.”

Davis Signs, But Can He Shine? - Son of Washington

Hoping everyone heals well - RG / FD / BO..