Report: Shanahan to DC done deal

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well it's not the same situation with the Browns, because Jim Zorn is still employed by the Redskins as head coach. The Browns didn't have a President in place (though I think they did interview minority candidates)

jerry gray should have never done that interview while zorn was still coach. i just dont know what to think since it was reported last week that gray and blache told zorn to his face they didnt interview for the job when things started leaking out.

either way, biz as usual for the DS.

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well it's not the same situation with the Browns, because Jim Zorn is still employed by the Redskins as head coach. The Browns didn't have a President in place (though I think they did interview minority candidates)

I disagree because before he made a stink about the Zorn issue, he made a stink about the bruce allen hire, same imo.

Why are people so mad, the redskins don't need to make their hiring procedures public at all. This is like a blind posting for a job in everyday life. A company may have a person currently in a position that will be getting terminated because he is not doing the job up to par and in anticipation of that move they start to interviewing candidates. Why is it different for NFL coaches?

[dmek25]

you ever wonder how Snyder made so much money, if this is the way he does things? professional must not be in his vocabulary

[SmootSmack]

What did he say about Bruce Allen?

[diehardskin2982]

Redskins won't say what they did to comply with Rooney Rule | ProFootballTalk.com

He raising a stink because it's the redskins. we burned him on his superbowl pick. lol

[SmootSmack]

I see. Well regardless of what PFT says, my take is still that the Holmgren situation isn't the same situation as Zorn because the Redskins currently have a head coach. The Browns did not have a President.

All that said, I still don't really have a problem with what the Redskins have done. At the end of the day, if Shanahan brings us what we all want-a Super Bowl trophy-will any of us really care how the cow was slaughtered so long as we get the steak?

[MTK]

Zorn is the first lame duck coach?

[Son Of Man]

The Rooney Rule, although noble in theory, is a dog & pony show in practice. Snyder did what he had to do, within the guidlines, to get this technicality out of the way. Sounds like good business navigation to me.

BTW- I do not want a guy who can't sem to teach his unit (defensive backs) how to defend double moves, to be our next head coach. But thank you to Gray for doing us a solid on the Rooney Rule thing.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Zorn is the first lame duck coach?

Of course not. I'm just saying there is a way of going about things.

[12thMan]

Sure, but in a different way. I think Dungy brings a different type of stability to an organization. I think the difference is that Shanny could perhaps establish a winning team, but Dungy would establish a winning culture first, and then everything else would follow.

I think those are the main two differences between the two. And quite frankly, I think folks would be more patient with Dungy on board knowing that it's a matter of when, not if. With Shanny I think he has a three, maybe four year window to right the ship.

[12thMan]

As far as race is concerned, I think Dungy would have instant cred with the black players on the team. It's just one of those intangible qualities that Dungy brings to the table. And yes, because he's black.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

As far as race is concerned, I think Dungy would have instant cred with the black players on the team. It's just one of those intangible qualities that Dungy brings to the table. And yes, because he's black.

Well race is what I was getting at. Would there be such a fuss about whether Snyder is adhering to the "spirit" of the Rooney Rule if Dungy was the one presumed to be our next head coach

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well race is what I was getting at. Would there be such a fuss about whether Snyder is adhering to the "spirit" of the Rooney Rule if Dungy was the one presumed to be our next head coach

Oh, I wasn't sure. Are you kidding me, hell NO. Dungy is bigger than the Rooney Rule anyway. You know. The Rooney Rule is in place for the no-name black candidates, not the successful black candidates. In that regard, I suppose, success supercedes race and color. But yeah, if we interviewed Dungy I don't think the Rooney Rule would enter most peoples minds. Dungy is a great coach period.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Oh, I wasn't sure. Are you kidding me, hell NO. Dungy is bigger than the Rooney Rule anyway. You know. The Rooney Rule is in place for the no-name black candidates, not the successful black candidates. In that regard, I suppose, success supercedes race and color. But yeah, if we interviewed Dungy I don't think the Rooney Rule would enter most peoples minds. Dungy is a great coach period.

So that doesn't seem fair then does it. Like you said it's in place for the no-names (guys like Jerry Gray), not the successful ones. So it's just kind of interesting I guess that such a fuss is being made about Gray interviewing with Shanahan the odds on favorite to get the job anyway. But if we were talking about Dungy then we wouldn't care if Gray was a token interview or if Snyder was making a mockery of the rule?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So that doesn't seem fair then does it. Like you said it's in place for the no-names (guys like Jerry Gray), not the successful ones. So it's just kind of interesting I guess that such a fuss is being made about Gray interviewing with Shanahan the odds on favorite to get the job anyway. But if we were talking about Dungy then we wouldn't care if Gray was a token interview or if Snyder was making a mockery of the rule?

Pretty much. The rule will be made a mockery of, unfortunately, because you have such a small pool of good coaching candidates to begin with. Whittle that same pool down to an even smaller pool of maybe qualified black coaches, and you open it up to criticism.

Truth is the Rooney Rule is created for that one guy who turns out to be Joe Gibbs before he becomes Joe Gibbs. The downside is there aren't that many Joe Gibbs out there, so you have to sift through all the Jerry Grays of the NFL to satisfy some bullshit token rule.