Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

I love ya Dynamite Rave.

But its true. RG3 don't need no stinkin' coaches. Or a playbook either, for that matter!

You all think that me goat and gtripp like being the negative nancies. Pretty sure we don't.

But us three also don't like going up a hill in neutral either. And thats just what we see. Shit, we are prolly wrong, and our defense will probably tighten up quicker than a homophobe's sphincter muscle at a gay club. We all hope it does.

But at the end of the day, I think us three expect a little more than the usual wait and see that us redskins fans have gotten way too used to the past 20 years. With RG3, hopefully Dan Snyder will see what us three think this team could be, and cut bait from the 75 year old coach who hasn't had a playoff appearance in the past 7 seasons, but who has now all of a sudden started to show results, just when our qb savior comes around. You all want to give that credit to the egomaniac coach with a 35% winning %, fine. Us three put ours on the young out of this universe athlete and what HE brings to the table.

This is a great metaphor. lol

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

I love ya Dynamite Rave.

But its true. RG3 don't need no stinkin' coaches. Or a playbook either, for that matter!

You all think that me goat and gtripp like being the negative nancies. Pretty sure we don't.

But us three also don't like going up a hill in neutral either. And thats just what we see. Shit, we are prolly wrong, and our defense will probably tighten up quicker than a homophobe's sphincter muscle at a gay club. We all hope it does.

But at the end of the day, I think us three expect a little more than the usual wait and see that us redskins fans have gotten way too used to the past 20 years. With RG3, hopefully Dan Snyder will see what us three think this team could be, and cut bait from the 75 year old coach who hasn't had a playoff appearance in the past 7 seasons, but who has now all of a sudden started to show results, just when our qb savior comes around. You all want to give that credit to the egomaniac coach with a 35% winning %, fine. Us three put ours on the young out of this universe athlete and what HE brings to the table.

Well you and Goat and GTripp are obviously knuckleheads! How dare you question anything about this organization after years and years of...of...of....nevermind.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Well you and Goat and GTripp are obviously knuckleheads! How dare you question anything about this organization after years and years of...of...of....nevermind.

There are lots of things to question. It is the unrelenting, complete and utter failure to credit anything that the organization has done right under MS/BA that is drawing ire.

Let me speak in the same language that has been leveled at me and see if it makes it easier for you to see why I find the posts blasting Shanahan so obnoxious:

If you can't see that this organization is in a better place than it was 3 years ago, then you are a moronic Cerrato apologist.

[53Fan]

Just wondering how many teams in the NFL RG3 would have looked BAD on?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Just wondering how many teams in the NFL RG3 would have looked BAD on?

Probably any team that tried to force him into a more conventional pro offense right off the bat.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Probably any team that tried to force him into a more conventional pro offense right off the bat.

Well not to take anything away from Mike, but John Fox was smart enough to change his offense to fit Tebow and go to the playoffs so I don't think we're the only team who would have done the same with RG3. I'm not sure RG3 would have looked bad starting off in a more conventional offense either, he seems to be VERY intelligent but I do like the way they've brought him along. No complaints there.

[REDSKINS4ever]

I'm consistently patient. I think while the Redskins are headed in the right direction, things could be worse than they are. I'm willing to cut Mike Shanahan some slack. The team he inherited from Jim Zorn is more competitive. If not for drafting RG3, the Redskins would be tied with Carolina at 1-6. If not for the defense taking 1,000 steps back, the Redskins would own a 6-2/5-3 record even with the injuries to Carriker and Orakpo.

The problem isn't Mike Shanahan. If you look at the Giants, they aren't really that much better or worse than the Redskins. They own a 6-2 record because they are a more complete team. Allen and Shanahan aren't through completing the Redskins.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I'm consistently patient. I think while the Redskins are headed in the right direction, things could be worse than they are. I'm willing to cut Mike Shanahan some slack. The team he inherited from Jim Zorn is more competitive. If not for drafting RG3, the Redskins would be tied with Carolina at 1-6. If not for the defense taking 1,000 steps back, the Redskins would own a 6-2/5-3 record even with the injuries to Carriker and Orakpo.

The problem isn't Mike Shanahan. If you look at the Giants, they aren't really that much better or worse than the Redskins. They own a 6-2 record because they are a more complete team. Allen and Shanahan aren't through completing the Redskins.

that's all there is to it.

still want haslett gone, though

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by los panda

that's all there is to it.

still want haslett gone, though

And I think that's how it's gonna go.

[RedskinRat]

People are looking at just the W/L, not how competitive the Skins have been this year. We've been out of just one game in eight so far. That's a huge step up even if it's not currently reflected in W/L, which it will be.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

People are looking at just the W/L, not how competitive the Skins have been this year. We've been out of just one game in eight so far. That's a huge step up even if it's not currently reflected in W/L, which it will be.

We were in a ton of games last year, and the year before too.

[whistler]

Originally Posted by The Goat

We were in a ton of games last year, and the year before too.

All NFL teams are in a ton of games every year. The worst teams can be within 3-7 points every week and loose them all very competitive but pro teams by definition are and should be competitve. It's the winning organizations that win the 3-7 point games every week that is the difference.
Why hasn't anyone started a string about the skins not having a hurry up offense? When ever there are critical times in a game the skins are in huddle as if there is no clock. Do the Shananhans need that much control of a game that they are not playing in? Even in 2 minute situations, the offense is in huddles? Is that good coaching?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by whistler

All NFL teams are in a ton of games every year. The worst teams can be within 3-7 points every week and loose them all very competitive but pro teams by definition are and should be competitve. It's the winning organizations that win the 3-7 point games every week that is the difference.
Why hasn't anyone started a string about the skins not having a hurry up offense? When ever there are critical times in a game the skins are in huddle as if there is no clock. Do the Shananhans need that much control of a game that they are not playing in? Even in 2 minute situations, the offense is in huddles? Is that good coaching?

Thanks for finishing my thoughts...I got lazy

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by los panda

don't let the liberal media tell you how to think and feel, if you have hate in your heart let it out!

if you don't like mike shanahan, don't mean there's something wrong with you, means there's something wrong with mike shanahan; he's not undefeated!

Seriously. Whether u hate him or love him its because u love the skins. U either dont think he can do it so u want him gone sooner than later. The fastest way to the new track is always to get off the wrong one asap. Or you love him despite his wins and losses because you believe not to give up now and let him finish his job. If its not in the cards though- look out. Two more years further away. Two years of rg-3 wasted by starting over again at that point. I dont know what i think anymore. To call someone on either side foolish is nonsense though. Seems like everyone is more anxious to say i told you so than for the redskins to win. However that happens - with or without MS.


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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I guess I'll never understand blaming Mike/Kyle for everything that went wrong with McNabb/Beck/Rex, and then refusing to give any credit for the success of RG3.

He is losing with all of them. Everything else wrong with the team is on Shanny. So is everything thats rite. But at 3-5 there is more wrong than rite. Either way we will kniw in two years.


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