Trouble in Redskins Park?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

We are going to have non-football guys picking players again. Who picked KC, who hates Shanahan. It's just about ego, and not being wrong. I didn't like Shanahan, he was right about Cousins(I was wrong about Cousins). Grow the eff up.

So Jay Gruden is a non-football guy? Doug Williams is a non-football guy too?

[Evilgrin]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So Jay Gruden is a non-football guy? Doug Williams is a non-football guy too?

Williams was a coach, Gruden is a Coach. They aren't decision makers on who gets what contract. Which is why are in this mess with Cousins.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Williams was a coach, Gruden is a Coach. They aren't decision makers on who gets what contract. Which is why are in this mess with Cousins.

It is my understanding that Bruce Allen has been the decision maker on money/contract matters, even when Scot was in charge of player evaluation/acquisition.

So I don't get your whole argument of having "non-football" people picking players, if you are talking about player contracts.

[Evilgrin]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

It is my understanding that Bruce Allen has been the decision maker on money/contract matters, even when Scot was in charge of player evaluation/acquisition.

So I don't get your whole argument of having "non-football" people picking players, if you are talking about player contracts.

We got sold swamp land when they hired McLoughan, and now it's all come out. It's not like Bruce hired McLoughan and said I will still have final say on all personnel matters.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Williams was a coach, Gruden is a Coach. They aren't decision makers on who gets what contract. Which is why are in this mess with Cousins.

McCloughan NEVER had say over contracts. He had say over the draft board and players to target. Schaffer and Allen always handled negotiations.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

McCloughan NEVER had say over contracts. He had say over the draft board and players to target. Schaffer and Allen always handled negotiations.

Thank you.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So Jay Gruden is a non-football guy? Doug Williams is a non-football guy too?

unproven record with personnel decisions.

[skinsfan69]

A few things about the Post piece..

Seriously what do those coaches see in Ryan Grant? He's had numerous chances to make his mark here and fails to do so. I would have kept Ross because he has speed and plays teams. Grant is slow but blocks on running plays...lol. Obviously Grant is a drafted player by Allen so...

If Scot is drinking then who cares? That's his business and as long as it doesn't hurt his job performance then so be it. Last time I checked he's an adult. Cooley is just a Dan and Bruce ass kisser. Wipe the shit off your nose Chris. And the Redskins failure to respond is a total lack of class.

If the GM of the team wants to talk with a frustrated player and went in the locker room then so be it. He's not giving the team a speech or anything. No issue there.

Not signing Cousins last year and failing to realize that he'd put up numbers again is just a total lack of vision. And I feel it goes back to Allen and Snyder probably still a bit bitter about RG3. Just my opinion of course...

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

A few things about the Post piece..

Seriously what do those coaches see in Ryan Grant? He's had numerous chances to make his mark here and fails to do so. I would have kept Ross because he has speed and plays teams. Grant is slow but blocks on running plays...lol. Obviously Grant is a drafted player by Allen so...

If Scot is drinking then who cares? That's his business and as long as it doesn't hurt his job performance then so be it. Last time I checked he's an adult. Cooley is just a Dan and Bruce ass kisser. Wipe the shit off your nose Chris. And the Redskins failure to respond is a total lack of class.

If the GM of the team wants to talk with a frustrated player and went in the locker room then so be it. He's not giving the team a speech or anything. No issue there.

Not signing Cousins last year and failing to realize that he'd put up numbers again is just a total lack of vision. And I feel it goes back to Allen and Snyder probably still a bit bitter about RG3. Just my opinion of course...

I really don't see Cooley as an ass kisser, but he may not be happy that SM never gave him a shot to get back on the field.

We are really going to argue over which 5th string WR we should have kept? ok...

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I really don't see Cooley as an ass kisser, but he may not be happy that SM never gave him a shot to get back on the field.

We are really going to argue over which 5th string WR we should have kept? ok...

It was brought up in the article so that's why I mentioned it. Things like that probably go on in every organization, but SM was suppose to have control over the roster. If he wanted to move on from Grant and was overruled then that's probably one many reasons he walked out..

[mredskins]

To me as far as McC goes its just another chapter in his story and the chapter always ends the same; him being fired.

[mredskins]

IMO McC was on a prove it deal with the Skins and BA was his babysitter. If in the last two years he was on good behavior; I am sure he still be here. Obviously something went wrong either his drinking, his inability to compromise, etc...but something happened that soured his relationship with the Skins. Again, this isn't the first or second time McC has soured his relationship with an organization.

Guy has great talent but his demons are overriding that talent at this point.

[Alvin Walton]

Awesome thread.....

[HTTR]

McC was not destined to prevail in a contest between him and BA. Allen is the proxy for DS in all things, and in that sense, a necessary evil. We're better off these days not having Dan going on man-dates with players he has a crush on. Yet Dan's desires have to be channeled through someone, and Allen plays that role pretty well; I only half hate him.

So with Jay's stock rising and inevitable style/ego clashes between McC and BA (in part, channeling Snyder), McC clearly is the odd man out.

The best we can hope for is that (1) BA continues to acknowledge that he needs help with talent evaluation, and (2) Cousins gets signed. If those things don't happen, then you can throw a match into the dumpster.

[Ruhskins]

And I thought Patriots fans were idiots when they tried to raise money to pay Brady's fine...

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