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Old 12-18-2017, 09:46 AM   #421
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Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?

Kirk proved once again yesterday that he is a top tier QB.

Against the number 1 D (stat wise) with once again no run game and dropped passes, he played very well and made the throws that mattered in the right times.

Like I've said all along, I hope we keep him I just don't know if Bruce is committed.
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I'm not clear on this: When are the Skins first able to sign Cousins to a new contract? After the Superbowl?
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I know -- that's exactly how I feel. And honestly, after blaming Shanahan for leaving him in injured (which he did), I've come to the conclusion that it wouldn't have mattered. RGIII is just an arrogant douche, and it would have become apparent sooner or later.
He is all those things but you can't tell me he isn't better than Gabbert.
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:43 PM   #424
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I'm not clear on this: When are the Skins first able to sign Cousins to a new contract? After the Superbowl?
I believe it's right after the season ends. Same thing last year and they didn't do anything from the time the season ended until FA.
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Whatever happens, please just don't use the standard franchise tag again. I really can't go thru another year of the same damn conversation and the terrible media attention it causes.
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Whatever happens, please just don't use the standard franchise tag again. I really can't go thru another year of the same damn conversation and the terrible media attention it causes.
Agreed. Even for the future of the team and the cap that would be stupid.

I'd understand taking the chance with the transition tag though. But even that could backfire if Kirk goes "you know what I won't sign any offer and just play for 28M"...

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Agreed. Even for the future of the team and the cap that would be stupid.

I'd understand taking the chance with the transition tag though. But even that could backfire if Kirk goes "you know what I won't sign any offer and just play for 28M"...

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Yeah, but 28 is way better than 35. I'd not be a fan but could live with it as its worth the risk for 2 possible 1st round picks.
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Something just tells me Bruce wont pay him 28 a year
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Yeah, but 28 is way better than 35. I'd not be a fan but could live with it as its worth the risk for 2 possible 1st round picks.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...g-designations

We wouldn't get compensation with the transition tag, only with the non exclusive franchise tag, which would be 35.

Being able to match any offer accepted would be great though.
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https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-bro...ncos-112396816

Quick free agent fix: Remember that John Elway doesn’t like losing. Presumably he sees his defense and feels it can compete at a championship level. What he needs is a quarterback, and one who can step in and provide an instant boost to a moribund offense. With the 49ers presumably happy with Jimmy Garoppolo, is there a more obvious landing spot for Kirk Cousins than Denver? That assumes the Redskins don’t give Cousins another franchise tag. Denver doesn’t have a ton of cap space, but they are projected by Spotrac to have about $33 million. I think this is where Cousins lands. Signing a veteran and not using their high draft pick on a quarterback would also leave the light on for Paxton Lynch to turn around his career and become the quarterback of the future, however unlikely that seems at the moment.
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We wouldn't get compensation with the transition tag, only with the non exclusive franchise tag, which would be 35.

Being able to match any offer accepted would be great though.
Oh man, that changes my opinion altogether. I don't want to use any tag on Cousins then. They need to resign him or move on then. Time to shit or get off the proverbial pot.
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Oh man, that changes my opinion altogether. I don't want to use any tag on Cousins then. They need to resign him or move on then. Time to shit or get off the proverbial pot.
The transition tag could be a good way to sign him long term while allowing the FO to save face and be sure not to overpay him in the eyes of the league...
but again a smart business decision from Kirk could be not to sign any offer and take the 28M.

But I'd take the chance because I think he is a sensed person and would eventually accept a legit LTD offer.
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I was listening to Kirk today on Grant and Danny and he was mentioning how the successful teams have the same coach, qb and so on. It didn't sound like he was interested in leaving. I think the Redskins were always his 1st choice.

I just think if he's going to stay here he needs to be realistic and know he's not a top 5 NFL QB. Yeah we know how it works for QB's but he's not going to be the highest paid guy here. I doubt Bruce and Dan are going to go high 20's. If he can swallow his pride and perhaps work out a LTD at around what he's making now maybe they get something done.
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The transition tag could be a good way to sign him long term while allowing the FO to save face and be sure not to overpay him in the eyes of the league... but again a smart business decision from Kirk could be not to sign any offer and take the 28M.
But I'd take the chance because I think he is a sensed person and would eventually accept a legit LTD offer.

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Yeah, he'll probably get paid that much as part of his regular contract anyways. However, it puts us in the same predicament if we don't sign him to contract. Then he leaves year after next and we waste that money we could have used to sign a multitude of the players that would be on team in 2019 too. I'm ready to lock him up or draft his replacement.
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I was listening to Kirk today on Grant and Danny and he was mentioning how the successful teams have the same coach, qb and so on. It didn't sound like he was interested in leaving. I think the Redskins were always his 1st choice.

I just think if he's going to stay here he needs to be realistic and know he's not a top 5 NFL QB. Yeah we know how it works for QB's but he's not going to be the highest paid guy here. I doubt Bruce and Dan are going to go high 20's. If he can swallow his pride and perhaps work out a LTD at around what he's making now maybe they get something done.
He doesn't need to be realistic. Brock Osweiler got 80 million last year. What part of that is realistic? Welcome to the NFL, where even mediocre qb's who haven't proven anything get paid. The ones who have proven it get even more paid.
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