The Haskins Threat

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Dump Richardson-he’s done nothing, total waste.
Dump Norman, he’s faded every year and is totally worthless.
Trent Williams asked to be traded before the season. Other high profile players in other teams asked for the same thing. ONLY THE REDSKINS, only Bruce Allen tried to keep their disgruntled player (justified or not), by trying to force him back on the team or punishing him for daring to leave this team. Other teams would have traded highly for him. Only Bruce Allen was arrogant enough to ignore their inquiries. The next GM needs to get the most from a trade for him. Move on.
Tough call on Kerrigan. He is a great veteran and before this season, the best and most consistent player on the defense. Whether due to Greg Manusky’s bad coaching or the effects of Father Time, he has faltered this season. Fortunately, the team picked up a good replacement-Orchard. We will get a good look at him and see if he is as good as his excellent first game. The new GM will make this hard decision of a trade or to keep him one more season. He has been an outstanding Redskin on some really crappy teams.
The team needs to dump almost all their FA’s except for Collins. That includes McCoy.



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It’s really not hard with Kerrigan:

1. Zero dead cap or owned money after this season. When cut, 11.5 salary becomes available for the skins to use.
2. Aging vet who clearly lost a step.
3. Sweat future spot is Kerrigan side where he broke out last week.

The 4 guys we need to cut from the team this offseason: Norman, Trent (trade), Reed and Kerrigan. 44 million becomes available in cap relief with 6 million in dead cap.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

It’s really not hard with Kerrigan:

1. Zero dead cap or owned money after this season. When cut, 11.5 salary becomes available for the skins to use.
2. Aging vet who clearly lost a step.
3. Sweat future spot is Kerrigan side where he broke out last week.

The 4 guys we need to cut from the team this offseason: Norman, Trent (trade), Reed and Kerrigan. 44 million becomes available in cap relief with 6 million in dead cap.

Yep, and lets be honest here its not like RK has ever had a huge impact on the team.. I like the guy and hes tough as nails but I can't recall a single game changing sack he had.. If there has been its few and far between

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

It’s really not hard with Kerrigan:

1. Zero dead cap or owned money after this season. When cut, 11.5 salary becomes available for the skins to use.
2. Aging vet who clearly lost a step.
3. Sweat future spot is Kerrigan side where he broke out last week.

The 4 guys we need to cut from the team this offseason: Norman, Trent (trade), Reed and Kerrigan. 44 million becomes available in cap relief with 6 million in dead cap.

Add Vernon Davis to that list. Honestly I will be surprised if him and Reed don't retire. Like there's literally nothing to gain at that point besides accelerating CTE to ruin the rest of your life.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

Add Vernon Davis to that list. Honestly I will be surprised if him and Reed don't retire. Like there's literally nothing to gain at that point besides accelerating CTE to ruin the rest of your life.

Vernon Davis and chris Thompson are last year of deal. That’s 9 more million combined off the books.

We these cuts and contracts ending, I’m extending schreff, flowers, roullier, and Dunbar first. I’m also gonna put some money in escrow incase reuben foster balls out in our defense. Build a young core from inside the team, reward performance.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Vernon Davis and chris Thompson are last year of deal. That’s 9 more million combined off the books.



We these cuts and contracts ending, I’m extending schreff, flowers, roullier, and Dunbar first. I’m also gonna put some money in escrow incase reuben foster balls out in our defense. Build a young core from inside the team, reward performance.

It is mind numbing how obvious the necessary steps are, and how worried i am that Bruce dipshit Allen can grasp it.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Vernon Davis and chris Thompson are last year of deal. That’s 9 more million combined off the books.

We these cuts and contracts ending, I’m extending schreff, flowers, roullier, and Dunbar first. I’m also gonna put some money in escrow incase reuben foster balls out in our defense. Build a young core from inside the team, reward performance.

I agree with this, Allen’s contract could be coming up soon to. I would sign Thompson to an affordable contract, if he agrees due to his missed time. Guice, Love, Thompson next year sounds really good.

[skinsfaninok]

"Just being in the huddle, I feel like he's taken more control," Thompson said on Haskins. "I feel like he's more calm out there. Everybody knows the story, he'd go out there and have a wristband [of the plays] and things like that. He's put more [pressure] on himself to not even want to use the wristband. He's just trying to learn everything."

"He was out there being able to flip protections to be able to protect himself. That's what I love to see," Thompson said. "I remember one time I was calling out the protection, I was saying it out loud. I was saying 'We need to flip this protection.' We had what we call a dummy count, and he walked up, switched the protection and put us in the right position for him to be able to get all six guys blocked up. That's the growth I've been seeing."

[skinsfaninok]

Haskins was 6-12 for 93 yards on passes longer than 10 yards in the air sunday, had 3 drops so would have been 9-12

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Haskins was 6-12 for 93 yards on passes longer than 10 yards in the air sunday, had 3 drops so would have been 9-12

If you are going to credit him with projected completions from drops you have to credit him for incompletions on all the sacks he takes from holding the ball too long where most quarterbacks would have thrown the ball away.

If he started from day one and threw the same amount of passes he would almost equal David Carr's record for taking the most sacks.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

If you are going to credit him with projected completions from drops you have to credit him for incompletions on all the sacks he takes from holding the ball too long where most quarterbacks would have thrown the ball away.

If he started from day one and threw the same amount of passes he would almost equal David Carr's record for taking the most sacks.

that is true i was just throwing that out there

[Warthog]

The dumping or trading of almost all the aging FA is pretty obvious. I think Reed and Davis will both retire. Cleaning out the FA will give the new GM and HC a lot of cap money to work with. It also forces the Redskins into a rebuilding mode, which Bruce Allen has avoided like the plague.

It all depends on what Snyder does at the end of the season. He could put the Redskins on the right path by firing Bruce Allen and Callahan at the end of the season AND hiring an NFL-savvy GM under the condition that he gives him full power to turn the team around.

The team has many favorable issues:

1. Fan base has hit absolute rock bottom and 20-years of losing football. Easy to build on that and recover.

2. Pretty easy path to clean all the deadwood FA. Reed, Davis, Richardson, Trent Williams (high value trade), Moses, Norman, Kerrigan. Decision point on Scherff. He was a Pro Bowl baller in his first seasons but this this year he’s been horrible. I can’t tell if it’s partly due to Moses playing so poorly or he’s just having a bad year. Way too many penalties.

3. Good base of rookie players. With good coaching this would be at least an average team. With another year of good drafting will make this team better. Spending some cap money on a top TE would make for a very good receiver group. Draft picks for OL.

This team could turn around if Snyder takes the right steps and acknowledges past mistakes. Keeping BA in any capacity will kill the GM and/or HC hunt.




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[JPPT1974]

Yeah as really so far, Haskins has delivered in the games he has been in and really growing in his role.

[SFREDSKIN]

For the 2020 draft there should be at least 20 OT's with talent available. I say go for 2 of them. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2...ugh-attention/

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

For the 2020 draft there should be at least 20 OT's with talent available. I say go for 2 of them. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2...ugh-attention/

Yup, I’ve been reading the same thing, the crop of tackles is pretty good this year. If we could land chase young in the first and trade TW at the very least for a second...that second rounder could still fetch a quality tackle.

Then again, if we can’t land chase young and the decision is no QB in the first, I’m for taking the Georgia kid at Tackle. From his tape this year, he’s been easily the best tackle in the country..well that’s what I’ve read.

In the same vein of quality of position in the upcoming draft...the tight end quality is garbage. Reading no real first or even high second round picks...most grading 3rd to fourth rounds

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yup, I’ve been reading the same thing, the crop of tackles is pretty good this year. If we could land chase young in the first and trade TW at the very least for a second...that second rounder could still fetch a quality tackle.

Then again, if we can’t land chase young and the decision is no QB in the first, I’m for taking the Georgia kid at Tackle. From his tape this year, he’s been easily the best tackle in the country..well that’s what I’ve read.

In the same vein of quality of position in the upcoming draft...the tight end quality is garbage. Reading no real first or even high second round picks...most grading 3rd to fourth rounds

I’m looking at holes that need to be fixed, OT, TE, S, CB, ILB, OLB. I want to move on from fucking Moses and TW, this would help DH.