How bout it Lavar

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

NO - it was a big deal. That's the point. Lavar makes a great play followed by a bonehead play. Fortunately the defense stepped up and covered for him giving away a crucial first down. Sorry - if he gets recognition for the good stuff then fess up and admit that the was a classic dumb Lavar mistake.

Why is it the in thing to do, to point out a penalty on LaVar and use it as an excuse to sh-t on him? Moss had two illegal motion penalties called on him today, but I haven't heard one person call him "boneheaded". LaVar had a great game, and made a game changing play, but it's still not enough for some of you. I don't get it.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Why is it the in thing to do, to point out a penalty on LaVar and use it as an excuse to sh-t on him? Moss had two illegal motion penalties called on him today, but I haven't heard one person call him "boneheaded". LaVar had a great game, and made a game changing play, but it's still not enough for some of you. I don't get it.

It's this simple, when Lavar comes remotly close to playing on defense, as Moss play's on offense, he will be cut some slack, but I seriously doubt that will ever happen.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Why is it the in thing to do, to point out a penalty on LaVar and use it as an excuse to sh-t on him? Moss had two illegal motion penalties called on him today, but I haven't heard one person call him "boneheaded". LaVar had a great game, and made a game changing play, but it's still not enough for some of you. I don't get it.

I pointed it out b/c it was a mental lapse at a critical time. Something LaVar has a history of doing. Yes, he makes great plays - he also makes costly gamebreaker types. All penalties are bad - but Lavar's offsides was akin to the Rabach's holding call in the Oakland rather then to a "run of the mill" penalty in that both the offsides and the holding call had a direct effect on the ability of hte team to stop/continue a drive.

I will say it again. I like Lavar - always have. I just think that when every one of his coaches (save Marty who really liked him) has had issues with his on field discipline - I think their might be something to it. I hope he can stay and really come into his own on this defense. I KNOW GW thought LaVAr could be something special when GW first got here - I saw GW's response with my own eyes when someone asked Gibbs how he would generate a pash rush. He believed in LA but, after seeing him play and practice - is a bit wary.

BTW - I was watching highlights of the game - guess who's name kept popping up: Marcus Washington. He was all over the field.

Let me hear just one Lavar worshipper say that Marcus was the man this week AND the better LB and then I will stop dismissing your arguments as mindless hero worship.

[mcalderone10]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

NO - it was a big deal. That's the point. Lavar makes a great play followed by a bonehead play. Fortunately the defense stepped up and covered for him giving away a crucial first down. Sorry - if he gets recognition for the good stuff then fess up and admit that the was a classic dumb Lavar mistake.

Again, MW is hyped every f***ing play - When was the last time you saw him jump offsides?

To win at the highest level it takes everybody doing all the little things right. No freebies for the other team. That's what Gibbs has been preaching, that's what the majority of the players seem to understand and that's why we are in the playoffs.

you are talking like we can only keep one or the other they are BOTH BEASTS. lavar has history being one of 2 multiyear skins pro bowlers the other being samuels. like smart people have said greg williams is the genious behind the Defense stop saying MW is better he's just had more time with the GW defense remember lavar was out most of last year while marcus was playin GW way. LAVAR is just needs time he's gone through so many dif D coordinators we NEED him back this feels like its dan snyder's money paid D not the redskins D i remember with smoot champ lavar and my man Darrell Green. I love the D just gotta hold on to the same players to keep this team a team.

[skins_fan]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

He did have that big INT, but he also had another silly offsides penalty on 3rd and 5 extending a drive for the Bucs. He's got to get more disciplined there

Okay,but it is not just about that one game it is about the rest of the season. He does need to be more disclepend,but he is a great player, and he helps us alot.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

He did have that big INT, but he also had another silly offsides penalty on 3rd and 5 extending a drive for the Bucs. He's got to get more disciplined there

Are you people kidding me. 5 yards, 1 time. compared to 10 tackles, int , forced fumble. you people are nit picking big time. I think we as a team played a pretty good game defensively, and you want to pick out one offside penalty? give me a break

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Are you people kidding me. 5 yards, 1 time. compared to 10 tackles, int , forced fumble. you people are nit picking big time. I think we as a team played a pretty good game defensively, and you want to pick out one offside penalty? give me a break

His five yarder let to points - it extended a drive that led to a field goal. That's why people are nit picking on that one. However, that wasn't the dumbest play of the game - The dumbest play of the game was made by Sean Taylor - getting ejected.

[LBrown43]

I think he acknowledged his hig school as a jab at Joe Pa and Penn State. In the lates issue of the Warpath he says he thinks the whole thing of him being a "freelance lins backer" and not playing in the scheme is due to Paterno. Apparently he said it early in Lavar's career and it has haunted him. I thoiugh he played an inspired game and with out the tipped pass and interception the whole copmplexion of the game could have been vastly different given our offensive out put for the day.

[JoeRedskin]

He played well but he wasn't a phenom. Marcus Washington was more of a game changer than LaVar (and yes, LaVar was in the right place at the right time to make the interception).

I don't think anybody hates Lavar or thinks he's a crappy player - I just don't get the "fall down and worship at his feet" attitude of some fans.

Seriously, where are the props for Marcus? He strips the ball and has the presence of mind to keep playing on so we score a touchdown. He seals the victory with an interception. He rocked and is clearly the best LB on our defense.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

He played well but he wasn't a phenom. Marcus Washington was more of a game changer than LaVar (and yes, LaVar was in the right place at the right time to make the interception).

I don't think anybody hates Lavar or thinks he's a crappy player - I just don't get the "fall down and worship at his feet" attitude of some fans.

Seriously, where are the props for Marcus? He strips the ball and has the presence of mind to keep playing on so we score a touchdown. He seals the victory with an interception. He rocked and is clearly the best LB on our defense.

I'm with you on this JR. Honestly I think a lot of the reason MW doesn't get enough love is that he's not out there on ever pre and post-game show talking about how much he loves the fans, and loves the city, blah blah blah. Even though I'm sure he does. Plus LaVar is "one of our own" since he was a draft pick.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

He played well but he wasn't a phenom. Marcus Washington was more of a game changer than LaVar (and yes, LaVar was in the right place at the right time to make the interception).

I don't think anybody hates Lavar or thinks he's a crappy player - I just don't get the "fall down and worship at his feet" attitude of some fans.

Seriously, where are the props for Marcus? He strips the ball and has the presence of mind to keep playing on so we score a touchdown. He seals the victory with an interception. He rocked and is clearly the best LB on our defense.

I agree that Marcus Washington had a hell of a game, but if you want to get technical, he was in the right place at the right time for the pick at the end of the game. And his strip and recovery was nice, but he almost gave it right back to the Buc's, if not for the athleticism of Sean Taylor.

I agree. Worshipping LaVar is a bit overboard, but so is acting as though he's only a troublemaker, and not a team player(not that you do, but there are plenty that do).

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

I agree that Marcus Washington had a hell of a game, but if you want to get technical, he was in the right place at the right time for the pick at the end of the game. And his strip and recovery was nice, but he almost gave it right back to the Buc's, if not for the athleticism of Sean Taylor.

I agree. Worshipping LaVar is a bit overboard, but so is acting as though he's only a troublemaker, and not a team player(not that you do, but there are plenty that do).

How about all 3 LBs had a hell of game. 33 tackles between them, two forced fumbles and two ints. that is pretty damn good from three players.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

He played well but he wasn't a phenom. Marcus Washington was more of a game changer than LaVar (and yes, LaVar was in the right place at the right time to make the interception).

I don't think anybody hates Lavar or thinks he's a crappy player - I just don't get the "fall down and worship at his feet" attitude of some fans.

Seriously, where are the props for Marcus? He strips the ball and has the presence of mind to keep playing on so we score a touchdown. He seals the victory with an interception. He rocked and is clearly the best LB on our defense.

Marcus wasn't this game... he was non existant befre the sack.... lavar was everywhere... he stepped up give him his due... he came to play...that's what bigtime players do....

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

Marcus wasn't this game... he was non existant befre the sack.... lavar was everywhere... he stepped up give him his due... he came to play...that's what bigtime players do....

Non-existent? Didn't he have 10 tackles, a deflection and a forced fumble and fumble recovery. And like JoeRedskin says the offsides on LaVar is a big deal. For one thing I believe it helped keep a Bucs drive alive that led to 3 points. And secondly, he was pumped up isn't that great an excuse. Who's not pumped up? If LaVar wants to be considered one of the best, one of the first things he has to work on is being consistenly solid, if not great.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Non-existent? Didn't he have 10 tackles, a deflection and a forced fumble and fumble recovery. And like JoeRedskin says the offsides on LaVar is a big deal. For one thing I believe it helped keep a Bucs drive alive that led to 3 points. And secondly, he was pumped up isn't that great an excuse. Who's not pumped up? If LaVar wants to be considered one of the best, one of the first things he has to work on is being consistenly solid, if not great.

Boy, you haters are hard on ole LaVar. so next time when big Joe or Marcus or whoever jumps offsides, I want to see you out here bashing them too. I dont recall any other penalties on LaVar other than the 5 yarder. Hell, he was excited to get a chance to pass rush. When he did it on a regular basis he ended up w/ 11 sacks, he was trying to prove to GW that he should be out there on 3rd down and jumped. There are alot of players in the NFL that jump offsides trying to get a jump on the snap, Strahan does it. Rice does, so are they boneheads too? Or is it just because its LaVar. Funny how you people talk about one 5 yard play and not the 10 tackles, the INT to set up the TD, or the forced fumble. That is a little harsh.