Expectations for a #2 guy

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

some people seem to be able to easily discuss hypotheticals when Ramsey is involved , so why not possible future players right Matty?

I was thinking the same thing, but in the interest of not letting another thread get hijacked I was willing to let it slide, but since you mentioned it, yes I agree.

Now let's get back to speculating about our new #2 WR!

[Monksdown]

I don't think that we should settle for our TE being our number 2. He is our number 1 TE, and we still need more threats beyond that illusive gold line. That being said, I feel that the prototypical 2nd wideout should above all else have excellent route running skills. That way, once Mark/Patty/Jason have exhausted their options in the play, and are looking at the 3rd progression, they can anticipate where he will be. (by third progression, i mean after moss, then cooley)

It would also be fun to have someone with the experience to come back for the ball when Mark/Pat/J is in trouble. That takes smarts, and normally a big price tag.

So I would settle for Coles back as a number 2. hhaah!

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Monksdown

So I would settle for Coles back as a number 2. hhaah!

Hahahahaha!!! Yeah don't stomp your toe...I mean, don't hold your breath on that one! LOL!!!

[FRPLG]

A solid 2 will catch 50+ balls and have about 700-800 yards. I think 6 TDs would be about right too. More importantly than his numbers would be his skill level in general. It needs to be someone who commands a safety on a regular basis to cover adequately. If he cannot create space for himself in one on one coverage then don't even bother playing him. Cooley is a great option but he doesn't require safety help consistently. He runs shorter routes out of the back field generally and is covered by an LB. That leaves one on one at the WR2 and Moss doubled or even tripled with two safeties(this past year). This is unacceptable. The mighty Steve Smith was bottled up exactly the same way against Seattle because Carolina had no viable options anywhere else. We need someone who scares defenses out of constant doubles and triples on Moss. We need someone who can make them pick a poison. I think Patten can do it but I still would like to get another guy just so when there is any injury the is still 2 viable options at the WR position.

[onlydarksets]

I don't care how many yards or TDs he has - I care about number of catches, location of catches, and number of first downs. We have the offensive threats to score - Moss, Portis, Cooley, Sellers. What we need is a guy who can run crisp routes to spread the defense to open up other players, go across the middle, and move the chains to extend drives.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

For me, it all depends on what kind of yardage the other guys are getting (on the ground and in the air). If Santana and Portis have 1,400 yard seasons, I'd expect the #2 not to have more than 600 yards. If Santana and Portis' number drop, I'd expect the #2's numbers to jump.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I think offiss has thrown in the towel. So, in the interests of peace , let's get back to discussing the thread topic.

[MTK]

Patten will still have a role with the team but you have to wonder if he'd be better suited as a #3.

Whatever happens, our WR depth is the main issue.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Patten will still have a role with the team but you have to wonder if he'd be better suited as a #3.

Whatever happens, our WR depth is the main issue.

I think you're right!

[Monksdown]

I think, overall on both sides of the ball near the sidelines we had depth issues. CB and WR. I havent written Patten off yet. But stay healthy, and get open!

He was playing when he was healthy, and doing nothing. And that's a testament to both his relationship with Mark, and to his inability to get open. He might as well have not have been on the field. I always have a difficult time 100% blaming a Wideout when the Qb doesnt get him the ball when he is open.