Recent League Salary Cap Cuts

jermus22 · 03-02-2006, 08:56 AM

We once drafted a dude named Wally Kleine out of Notre Dame back in the late '80s. He was an offensive tackle taken in the second round and was 6'9" 320 lbs (a real monster back in those days). But he never started and he ended up staying with us for only a few years before getting out of football altogether. I think Bugel was the o-line coach back in those days, but he couldn't get Kleine to measure up to his potential. I'm not saying Bugel isn't a good coach, but a player must have the motivation, character, and work ethic to improve before a coach can fix his problems. That might be the problem with Mike Williams from the Bills.

shallyshal · 03-02-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jermus22

We once drafted a dude named Wally Kleine out of Notre Dame back in the late '80s. He was an offensive tackle taken in the second round and was 6'9" 320 lbs (a real monster back in those days). But he never started and he ended up staying with us for only a few years before getting out of football altogether. I think Bugel was the o-line coach back in those days, but he couldn't get Kleine to measure up to his potential. I'm not saying Bugel isn't a good coach, but a player must have the motivation, character, and work ethic to improve before a coach can fix his problems. That might be the problem with Mike Williams from the Bills.

i remember kleine well... you could also add andre johnson to the list. lasted barely 2 season with the skins despite being a first round pick..

you need feet to be a good lineman, not just size

That Guy · 03-02-2006, 05:13 AM

KR, Rod Smart, Panthers.

espn has a cuts page:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2350202

jdlea · 03-02-2006, 09:36 AM

Sportscenter just threw up a list of potential salary cap casualties. At the tope of the list were Derrick Brooks and Simeon Rice. Also, Billy Volek and a couple other names I recognized, but can't remember right now.

shallyshal · 03-02-2006, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

Sportscenter just threw up a list of potential salary cap casualties. At the tope of the list were Derrick Brooks and Simeon Rice. Also, Billy Volek and a couple other names I recognized, but can't remember right now.

agree with you totally about cowen.. time for that troll to move upstairs, he belongs inthe upper echelon of the nfl league office

Big C · 03-02-2006, 10:00 AM

yeah but mike williams is a character guy that gibbs would probably like, he is a personality to say the least. if the contract was cheap id love to have him here for depth

SmootSmack · 03-02-2006, 02:17 PM

Don't know if it's been listed here, couldn't find it, but La'Roi Glover (Cowboys) and Will Shields (Chiefs) are gone according to Foxsports.com

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-02-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Don't know if it's been listed here, couldn't find it, but La'Roi Glover (Cowboys) and Will Shields (Chiefs) are gone according to Foxsports.com

Just added them to the list, thanks!

That Guy · 03-02-2006, 02:20 PM

wow, big cuts. shields only has what? 11 consectutive pro bowls?

SkinsFanfrom21122 · 03-02-2006, 06:16 PM

Chiefs cut Warfield, Stills, McCleon, Barber

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2351727

And Pat Yasinskas, of the Charlotte Observer, reports the Carolina Panthers have released LB Brandon Short.

SmootSmack · 03-02-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinsFanfrom21122

Chiefs cut Warfield, Stills, McCleon, Barber

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2351727

And Pat Yasinskas, of the Charlotte Observer, reports the Carolina Panthers have released LB Brandon Short.

Welcome!

SmootSmack · 03-02-2006, 06:20 PM

I don't know if this has been brought up, but are teams being perhaps too hasty in cutting players? I mean you cut a guy like Will Shields thinking you have to because there's no CBA in place. But then what if a deal is reached?

That Guy · 03-02-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I don't know if this has been brought up, but are teams being perhaps too hasty in cutting players? I mean you cut a guy like Will Shields thinking you have to because there's no CBA in place. But then what if a deal is reached?

they must have decided even with a new cba he cost too much to keep.

SkinsFanfrom21122 · 03-02-2006, 06:28 PM

Just saw this on ESPN.

"A high-level source with one NFL team told ESPN.com the league has informed teams that any player placed on waivers during the period of uncertainty (which includes players in this story) can be recalled from waivers until there is more clarity about the pending free-agency period."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2351727

Also has Shields been offically cut?

"(Rotoworld) Despite a FoxSports.com report to the contrary, Will Shields has not been released by the Chiefs.Impact: Perhaps the announcement will come later, but Shields may at least have a three-day reprieve to see if a new CBA can be worked out."

SkinsFanfrom21122 · 03-02-2006, 06:21 PM

Thanks for the welcome. Saw the great work and decided I had to join.

03-02-2006, 08:56 AM	#1
jermus22 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Frankfort, KY Age: 44 Posts: 336	Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts We once drafted a dude named Wally Kleine out of Notre Dame back in the late '80s. He was an offensive tackle taken in the second round and was 6'9" 320 lbs (a real monster back in those days). But he never started and he ended up staying with us for only a few years before getting out of football altogether. I think Bugel was the o-line coach back in those days, but he couldn't get Kleine to measure up to his potential. I'm not saying Bugel isn't a good coach, but a player must have the motivation, character, and work ethic to improve before a coach can fix his problems. That might be the problem with Mike Williams from the Bills. __________________ Win it in the trenches.

03-02-2006, 05:13 AM	#3
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts KR, Rod Smart, Panthers. espn has a cuts page: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2350202

03-02-2006, 09:36 AM	#4
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 42 Posts: 3,109	Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts Sportscenter just threw up a list of potential salary cap casualties. At the tope of the list were Derrick Brooks and Simeon Rice. Also, Billy Volek and a couple other names I recognized, but can't remember right now.

03-02-2006, 10:00 AM	#6
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 40 Posts: 4,453	Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts yeah but mike williams is a character guy that gibbs would probably like, he is a personality to say the least. if the contract was cheap id love to have him here for depth __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

03-02-2006, 02:17 PM	#7
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts Don't know if it's been listed here, couldn't find it, but La'Roi Glover (Cowboys) and Will Shields (Chiefs) are gone according to Foxsports.com __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-02-2006, 02:20 PM	#9
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts wow, big cuts. shields only has what? 11 consectutive pro bowls?

03-02-2006, 06:16 PM	#10
SkinsFanfrom21122 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pasadena, Md Posts: 14	Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts Chiefs cut Warfield, Stills, McCleon, Barber http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2351727 And Pat Yasinskas, of the Charlotte Observer, reports the Carolina Panthers have released LB Brandon Short.

03-02-2006, 06:20 PM	#12
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts I don't know if this has been brought up, but are teams being perhaps too hasty in cutting players? I mean you cut a guy like Will Shields thinking you have to because there's no CBA in place. But then what if a deal is reached? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-02-2006, 06:28 PM	#14
SkinsFanfrom21122 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pasadena, Md Posts: 14	Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts Just saw this on ESPN. "A high-level source with one NFL team told ESPN.com the league has informed teams that any player placed on waivers during the period of uncertainty (which includes players in this story) can be recalled from waivers until there is more clarity about the pending free-agency period." http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2351727 Also has Shields been offically cut? "(Rotoworld) Despite a FoxSports.com report to the contrary, Will Shields has not been released by the Chiefs.Impact: Perhaps the announcement will come later, but Shields may at least have a three-day reprieve to see if a new CBA can be worked out."

03-02-2006, 06:21 PM	#15
SkinsFanfrom21122 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pasadena, Md Posts: 14	Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts Thanks for the welcome. Saw the great work and decided I had to join.

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