Handcuffed by a Dumbass

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

LOL. Your edit of my post was funny. But seriously, riding ATVs is inherently more risky than a whole bunch of other activities. You can be as careful as you want, but you're still not nearly as likely to get hurt doing countless other things.

I couldn't disagree more with that last sentence.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

I couldn't disagree more with that last sentence.

Then you're flat out ignoring the facts.

[cpayne5]

Schneed, have you ridden an ATV?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

I couldn't disagree more with that last sentence.

You're telling me that you honestly think you're just as likely to get injured by riding ATVs as you are by lying on a beach in Turks & Caicos?

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

You're telling me that you honestly think you're just as likely to get injured by riding ATVs as you are by lying on a beach in Turks & Caicos?

and you think its just as fun lying on the beach as it is riding an ATV?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Schneed, have you ridden an ATV?

Yes. But only for about five minutes.

And I understand what you're getting at. You're saying that people who know how to ride an ATV can protect themselves by taking precautions. And that the know-how is what really protects you.

But that know-how is subject to human error. If you mess up on an ATV, even though you're being careful, something nasty can happen.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by steveo395

and you think its just as fun lying on the beach as it is riding an ATV?

This is the crux of my entire argument. People care more about how fun it is rather than how much of a risk it is to their financial future.

[Schneed10]

A regular joe risks his regular joe salary when he rides ATVs. He could get hurt an not be able to make it back to his 9-5.

A football player risks his NFL salary (for many it's in the millions) when he rides ATVs. BIG difference.

[Schneed10]

Gotta jet now guys. I have to ride home on my ATV. LOL

Maybe I'll pick up the discussion over the weekend.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Then you're flat out ignoring the facts.

I've seen people get hit in the head by a golf club and spend months in the ICU. I've seen people tear ACLs running on the beach during a 'relaxing' vacation in the Carribean. etc etc

I've also seen myself ride ATVs for the past 18 years and never get hurt. I've seen relatives race dirtbikes professionally for 10+ years and never get hurt.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

I've seen people get hit in the head by a golf club and spend months in the ICU. I've seen people tear ACLs running on the beach during a 'relaxing' vacation in the Carribean. etc etc

I've also seen myself ride ATVs for the past 18 years and never get hurt. I've seen relatives race dirtbikes professionally for 10+ years and never get hurt.

that still doesn't mean there's not a high risk level involved. Your single antedotal evidence is not enough for a valid conclusion. If you look at the % of people injured while running vs the % of people hurt motorbiking etc, i'm pretty sure you'd already know which relative percentage would be higher.

[Pocket$ $traight]

He will be fine. Get over it.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by That Guy

that still doesn't mean there's not a high risk level involved. Your single antedotal evidence is not enough for a valid conclusion. If you look at the % of people injured while running vs the % of people hurt motorbiking etc, i'm pretty sure you'd already know which relative percentage would be higher.

Actually, I would LOVE to compare these. Got some numbers???

[MTK]

5 pages dedicated to a non-issue... he's going to be fine.

Must be the offseason.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I agree with every single thing you said, Matty. Especially the bolded part. They're allowed to make whatever choices they want to make, but I'm also allowed to criticize their decisions if I think it's dumb.

And yes of course football is dangerous. Maybe even as dangerous as to ride ATVs, I don't know the stats on injury likelihoods. But he gets paid to do one, not the other. If you get hurt doing what you're paid to do, it's just part of the job.

I didn't say you or anyone else can't say anything about it, silly as it may be considering his injury shouldn't have an effect on his 2006 season.