Why The Bengals Won't Have a Good 12th Man

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by dmek25

what? i cant bring my kids to an nfl game because some lame ass wants to act like an a**hole? being loud and cheering( or booing) is acceptable behavior. in all the years of traveling to the vet to see the skins my motto was, say anything you want to about me or anyone in my family, just keep the vulgarities to a minimum, and never make it physical. i dont want to be known as philly south. we know how to win with class, unlike those morons in green and white

Just to clarify, my comments about us being LincField South was because I don't want ANYONE being polite, just civil to other team's fans. I was referring to this because an insane number of opposing team's fans would show up because we WERE too polite or NOT loud enough. If you know you're going to catch a razzing going into another stadium, that's a good thing. If you know you're going to catch a BEATING, that's a totally different thing.

[12thMan]

So, if I guy is front of you cheering and cursing....what, you'll tell him he's out of line?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I think you have a right to tell him he's out of line. I do think there's a reasonable expectation to not be downright idiotic when you go to a football game. It's a really grey area between acceptable and obnoxious at a football game. I think as long as you aren't screaming obscenities then you're good. If a child happens to hear you say an obscenity when you're talking to someone near you at a normal volume, I think that's one of the risks of going to the game.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I think you have a right to tell him he's out of line. I do think there's a reasonable expectation to not be downright idiotic when you go to a football game. It's a really grey area between acceptable and obnoxious at a football game. I think as long as you aren't screaming obscenities then you're good. If a child happens to hear you say an obscenity when you're talking to someone near you at a normal volume, I think that's one of the risks of going to the game.

That's pretty much where I'm (excuse my grammar) at. If obscenities (slip) then so be it. If you're purposely being rude and vulgar then that's another thing. If a child is in ear shot of an off color comment, I really think that's one of the risks of being at a game. I make no apologies.

[dmek25]

i agree but there is a very fine between being a good fan and a royal a** hole. screaming obscenities at the top of your lungs is not being a good fan, its being a great a**hole. some vulgarities will slip out during any conversation and thats to be expected. but being drunk out of your mind and using only bad language should not be tolerated

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I'm drunk out of my mind, but I'm a friendly drunk!

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i agree but there is a very fine between being a good fan and a royal a** hole. screaming obscenities at the top of your lungs is not being a good fan, its being a great a**hole. some vulgarities will slip out during any conversation and thats to be expected. but being drunk out of your mind and using only bad language should not be tolerated

Dmek, I think I've been guilty of being an asshole....mostly at bars though.

[dmek25]

everyone is guilty of that at one time or another. it just burns me up that eagle fans think because they buy a ticket, anything goes. i dont want fed ex to be that kind of place. and yea for malcolm. i get overly friendly when im drunk also

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Some people get angry. I get happy. I DO get angry on tequila, but I don't drink any type of tequila at tailgates, so this year's tailgate is safe from angry Malcolm.

[12thMan]

Same here, I get happy when I'm drunk...if I'm watching the Skins, I have the potential to be an asshole, but I've never been out of the way or anything. I hope to sling some brews with BrudLee this weekend.....Brud are you there???

[ArtMonkDrillz]

The only game I got out of hand and had to be asked by multiple people to clean up the language was when we played the raiders last year. The team was headed towards a 3rd straight loss and I had just downed 2 40's of Olde English in the parking lot, so my choice of words turned a little blue.

I normally try to be respectful to any kids around me, but that doesn't stop me from saying some pretty stupid crap to opposing fans. Two years ago there was this ugly chick in a cowpies jersey a few row in front of us. The jeresey was #17, but the name said something stupid like Michelle or whatever. She wouldnt sit down or shut up, so I finally yelled, "hey, Michelle! Is 17 the amount of beers it would take a guy to sleep with you?" She sat down after that one.
Now I don't feel like I was out of line, because here she is in our stadium but she feels like it's okay to reamin standing the whole game (we were like 10 rows from the top, so it was hard enough to see already) and cheer like she was in dallas.
I've been to one away game and people talked sh*t to us the whole time, but we expected it, and so should anyone who comes into our house to watch their team.

[Touchdown 2006]

The Bengals idea with the Jerk Line is a great idea. Every stadium in America should do it. Sports are as much about entertainment as they are about games these days.
The team's success depends on fans enjoying their experience at the stadium enough to bring their money back a second time. For every drunk fan who has fun, there are about 15 sober fans who don't. Alcohol is wonderful if you're pathetic enough to rely on it as a means for a good time. But anyone who has to get drunk to enjoy something as exciting as an NFL game isn't worth it.

[TheInspector]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

The only game I got out of hand and had to be asked by multiple people to clean up the language was when we played the raiders last year. The team was headed towards a 3rd straight loss and I had just downed 2 40's of Olde English in the parking lot, so my choice of words turned a little blue.

Two forties of OE? Damn, you're gansta.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

We have a tradition of drinking a 40 at tailgates. One of my buddies had to back out of the game at the last minute because he was sick, so I had to step up and drink one for him.

[Schneed10]

OK I had a meeting and missed a lot of this discussion. Let me weigh in.

Starting fights: always completely unacceptable. Defending yourself if someone screams at you in such a way to make you feel there is impending physical harm, always acceptable.

Shouting obscenities just for the sake of shouting obscenities: unacceptable. But if you're pumped up and Brunell tosses an INT and you blurt out oh mother effer, no harm done, that's just the result of being into the game. There's a difference. One is intentionally using bad language for it's own sake. The other is a simple loss of self-control. All I'm saying is that I don't want anyone to be controlling themselves for language so much that it prevents them from making significant noise.

If you can control your language and still be loud 100% of the time, you're the best fan of all. If you are loud all the time but let the occasional curse word slip, I'd still take you over a patsy who just sits there the entire game without making noise.

As for making fun of other fans at the stadium, it's par for the course and if you come to a game, it's open season. You should keep it to things like "hey, guy with the Roy Williams jersey, does that shirt smell like burnt toast, because I think Santana Moss may have left it in the toaster too long." It should not be "hey Cowboy's fan, you're a piece of sh*t."

Though if a fan of an opposing team is a jerk first (shouting obscenities incessantly, starting fights), it's open season. Beat his ass if you have to.