Brady or Manning?

[hail_2_da_skins]

Tom Brady is the coolest quarterback under fire. There is no current quarterback that I would rather have under center in the last few minutes of the game and my team needs a score. I'm not knocking Peyton Manning, he definitely gets the job done, but if I had to choose between the two, I'll take Cool Hand Tom.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

Tom Brady is the coolest quarterback under fire. There is no current quarterback that I would rather have under center in the last few minutes of the game and my team needs a score. I'm not knocking Peyton Manning, he definitely gets the job done, but if I had to choose between the two, I'll take Cool Hand Tom.

Did you see the look on Peyton's face after Denver tied the game up with about a minute left on Sunday? He looked like an assassin or something; like he was in just the position that he wanted to be in. It was pretty amazing to watch, IMO.
Now, if he can just act that way in January...

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Both are, of course, great quarterbacks. I would, however, give the nod to Brady as the better quarterback. Brady has done so much, with such average talent around him. Manning, on the other hand, has done a lot, but he's had a great O-line, great wideouts, good TEs, and good running backs.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Both are, of course, great quarterbacks. I would, however, give the nod to Brady as the better quarterback. Brady has done so much, with such average talent around him. Manning, on the other hand, has done a lot, but he's had a great O-line, great wideouts, good TEs, and good running backs.

I sort of disagree that Brady's only had average talent around him. I'll give you the skill positions on offense, Manning obviously has had the advantage there, but the o-lines are pretty similiar in terms of talent. NE/Brady have also had the better defense since 2001, which has probably allowed them to win some games that they wouldn't have otherwise.
And finally, the kicker. If it weren't for Adam Vinaterri (sp?) NE may not have even gotten to the Super Bowl in 2002. Who knows what would happened after that.

A lot of people are saying they'd rather have Brady because of the Super Bowl wins, but I don't know how fair that really is. Brady is obviously a winner and a great field general, but I still think Manning is a better QB.

[illdefined]

can you believe its been 20+ years since the skins have had an all pro-caliber franchise QB...

[The Zimmermans]

the one thing that separates the two QB's is the mental strength of Brady, and lack their of in peyton.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

the one thing that separates the two QB's is the mental strength of Brady, and lack their of in peyton.

That is a great point. Manning through out his career, especially in college, has had the reputation that he can not win the big game. He did not handle presure situations well. He won his first playoff game of his career last year. He has been in the league how long???

Another thing Brady does better than any other QB in the NFL is he does a great job of sensing the rush, even behind him. Brady is a good at eluding that pass rush. he does not get sacked often.

The rule changes have really helped Manning. A past knock on Manning was if you got to him early and hit him hard it made him play poorly. But now with all these shitty rules you can't even breath on a QB, his play has really taken off this year.
Manning really does look strong this year.

[Rexi]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

That is a great point. Manning through out his career, especailly in college, has had the reputation that he can not win the big game. He does not handle presure situations well. He won his first playoff game of his career last year. He has been in the league how long???

Um no...Manning is 3-6 in the playoffs and won no playoff games last season.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Rexi

Um no...Manning is 3-6 in the playoffs and won no playoff games last season.

Oh, so he won his first playoff game the year before? Either way his record in big games is not very good.

[Rexi]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Oh, so he won his first playoff game the year before? Either way his record in big games is not very good.

He one his first playoff game in 2003.

[That Guy]

brady. he's throwing to D list receivers... hell, he made david patten look good oh yeah, and the rings, and taking less money. i'll take winning over stats.

[BDBohnzie]

IMO, if anything, Peyton mentally is far beyond any QB in the NFL, much less Brady. No one prepares himself more for any game than Peyton. He knows the situations and the angles inside and out. If he doesn't already, I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't call his own game ala Jim Kelly.

Granted, Peyton can be mental, but that is certainly a different meaning...

[The Zimmermans]

that doesnt mean he has strong mental strength, mental strength is tested when you face adversity, when something goes wrong. Peyton doesnt bounce back well from failure, brady does.

[firstdown]

Brady by far 3 SB's is enough for me. Manning could become another Marino with great stats but no SB.

[Daseal]

Listening to NFL radio today this subject came up. One caller in particular made an excellent point. He says he is sick of hearing the 3 super bowl rings as the reason Brady is a superior quarterback. First of all, it's nearly impossible to base an individual position on winning. Winning comes from a whole team not one person, the only reliable way to look at it is stats, and even those are flawed.

He also said everyone notes how great Brady would be with those receivers, but fail to look at the flip-side. How good would Manning be with that defense?

If given my pick, I'd take Manning in a second. Switch Manning with Brady, and I feel that Manning has 3, maybe more, rings too.