Redskins-Rams: Postgame Thoughts

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

Many plays (or lack thereof) lost us this game, but at 3rd and 1 on our 12yd line, to call 40 gut and get stuffed for a loss is inexcusable. That is not an Al Saunders playcall, it stinks of Gibbs. I'm not suggesting that some creative triple reverse should've been called, but a 40 gut running play in that situation with 8 men in the box is simply a mistake.

The D was non-existent, as were the wide receivers.

Glad we lost this one - moving steadily on up the draftboard. Merry Christmas all.

Yeah, we will move up the draft boad. That's about all you can say. Who do think we should get, Lamar Woodley or Gaines Adams?

[redsk1]

The d today was just plain bad. Worst in the NFL bad. Don't tell me the reason is that we had a couple injuries. Most teams do.

The o played a pretty good game and put up 31pts. However we sputtered down the stretch.

Betts does have the tendancy to fumble but let's not place the blame w/ him. I'll give the loss to the d.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

1). The run game looked awesome for the first half and really puttered out in the 2nd half.

2). Clock management was a joke; someone needs to tell the coaches that you want to KEEP timeouts when you're down in the 4th.

3). Betts' hands are nowhere near as good as as Portis' and he, along with the defense, cost us the game with his late 4th quarter fumble deep in Rams territory.

4). The pass defense is disgusting. It's the worst I've seen since the unit was coached by Edwards.

5). Sean Taylor has been playing like a 5th round draft pick, not the 5th overall pick. He's taking poor angles, blowing tackles, and isn't making the game-changing plays he was supposed to make with regularity.

But, the silver lining is that we'll have a better draft pick.

Could number 5 be related to having Steven Jackson as your safeties coach? Why not get rid of Jackson and let Gray run the whole show in the backfield? Maybe that would resolve the whole issue the mole brought up about the safeties and CB's not being on the same page.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by Bill B

Could number 5 be related to having Steven Jackson as your safeties coach? Why not get rid of Jackson and let Gray run the whole show in the backfield? Maybe that would resolve the whole issue the mole brought up about the safeties and CB's not being on the same page.

I think that would be a big improvement, for sure.

[mike340]

Betts had both hands on the ball. The defender had one hand on the ball and punched it out with the other one (from behind Betts). Good defensive play. Period. End of story. Get the idea?

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by mike340

Betts had both hands on the ball. The defender had one hand on the ball and punched it out with the other one (from behind Betts). Good defensive play. Period. End of story. Get the idea?

If you can watch the replay, please do. It's clear that he only had the ball in his right hand and his left hand was doing other things, that was not on the ball.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

If you can watch the replay, please do. It's clear that he only had the ball in his right hand and his left hand was doing other things, that was not on the ball.

Exactly, he was putting his left down to brace against the fall. It wasn't a great play, he didn't come outta nowhere, he had Betts wrapped up. It was a smart play. One Betts should have expected...

[The Huddle]

I'm surprised to see all the Betts bashing earlier in this thread. Betts did more than any other player on the team to put the team into a position to win the game. Sure, the fumble hurt, but the Redskins had a chance to overcome it at they couldn't.

Until Campbell matures further, the Redskins offense will remain one dimensional. The Rams did just enough choking up on the Redskins running game in the second half to force Campbell to make a few plays, and he couldn't deliver. No big surprise there.

The secondary remains the same dubious proposition it was on opening day. Even with Springs in there it's not an impressive unit (not to be confused with having impressive athletes); without him it's nothing.

[mike340]

I just saw it again and stand corrected. I still feel it was an excellent defensive play and not Betts's fault. (The left hand was trying to keep the defender away.)

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

If you can watch the replay, please do. It's clear that he only had the ball in his right hand and his left hand was doing other things, that was not on the ball.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by mike340

I just saw it again and stand corrected. I still feel it was an excellent defensive play and not Betts's fault. (The left hand was trying to keep the defender away.)

It was a head's up play by the defender, but it's a play Betts should prevent. I don't care if that means not fighting for extra yards. Just get down and don't fumble. The most important thing to do in that situation is not getting 2 more yards, it's not turning it over. That's why the Skins were calling safe plays. That play is something that guys try to do all the time. Rarely does it succeed. Betts needs to keep his head in it right there and cover up the ball.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by mike340

I just saw it again and stand corrected. I still feel it was an excellent defensive play and not Betts's fault. (The left hand was trying to keep the defender away.)

It was a good defensive play, but given the situation, there is no way I'd go and say it wasn't Betts's fault. You have got to get both hands on the ball when guys are running up on you from behind (especially in a tie game with 2 mins left!). It's fundamental.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

It's clear that he only had the ball in his right hand and his left hand was doing other things...

Mmmhmmm...I'll bet it was. Visions of Redskinettes dancing in his head

Seriously though, I don't know (actually I doubt) if this streak of great running along with the new contract has gotten to Betts' head. But, as much as I hate that he fumbled, a humbling experience like this could be good for him. Let's see if he can bounce back next week.

As for the defense...sigh.

And man how it would've been nice to have gotten Bruce last off-season.

[wilsowilso]

The QB was pretty bad today. I really like him, but not today. He gets a D grade. I thought Rocky looked quite good though! Don't get me started on Holdman. The fact that he is actually still playing makes me question the entire Dfensive coaching staff. He is horrible!!!!!!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

The QB was pretty bad today. I really like him, but not today. He gets a D grade. I thought Rocky looked quite good though! Don't get me started on Holdman. The fact that he is actually still playing makes me question the entire Dfensive coaching staff. He is horrible!!!!!!

Holdman was bad today as was Marshall. Holdman just does not have the ability to play at the NFL level. And Marshall just can't get off blocks.

[BigSKINBauer]

The skins always ruin christmas. I don't celebrate it or i would be even more upset. Last year was great but it was just a tease. It set me up to think this year would actually be good. I don't know how much longer I have to wait until i see my skins win a few playoff games. We are horrible and it is sad to see. We could easily be 5-11 to finish and that puts us back 4 years. I don't get it. I have been a fan a while and never have seen the skins actually be good. F... all the good teams and their fans.

That is the only thought i have after this game.