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Old 12-28-2006, 09:02 AM   #1
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Re: Springs Placed on IR, Rumph Released

Springs already has the cover ability and is a decent tackler, it makes him an ideal safety. Think among the lines of Troy Vincent and Rod Woodson. Moving to Safety extended both careers. And it seems that Nate Clements is on his way here...since Matty's spies saw him looking at houses in the area.

Guess this means AA will continue to be the highest paid special teamer in NFL history.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:45 AM   #2
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Springs already has the cover ability and is a decent tackler, it makes him an ideal safety. Think among the lines of Troy Vincent and Rod Woodson. Moving to Safety extended both careers. And it seems that Nate Clements is on his way here...since Matty's spies saw him looking at houses in the area.

Guess this means AA will continue to be the highest paid special teamer in NFL history.
Maybe it's just perception, but it seems to me that safeties dole out a lot more punishment than corners do (and by extension take a lot more contact), and again, totally anecdotally, it sure seems like safeties get injured more than corners do, on the whole. Anyone actually play competitive football on defense and have a perspective on this?
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:09 AM   #3
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Was that ever a miscalculation of a first round pick.
What first rounder?
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What first rounder?
Not ours, the 49ers
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:59 AM   #5
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I think so, based on what Gibbs said about their plans to evaluate every position this offseason. I think upon further review he'll realize that the secondary needs a lot of work. There should be much better communication between the safeties and corners. I see an early (should be one of the first), more disciplined, hot and nasty pre-season camp in 2007. Anyone who shows up not willing to put in the extra work will take example from AA, you won't play regardless of your salary.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:11 AM   #6
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I think so, based on what Gibbs said about their plans to evaluate every position this offseason. I think upon further review he'll realize that the secondary needs a lot of work. There should be much better communication between the safeties and corners. I see an early (should be one of the first), more disciplined, hot and nasty pre-season camp in 2007. Anyone who shows up not willing to put in the extra work will take example from AA, you won't play regardless of your salary.

Part of this should include firing safeties coach Steve Jackson and making Jerry Gray coach of the complete secondary - get rid of the split coaching in the backfield and I bet you the communication improves - plus Jerry Gray is a better coach than Jackson anyway.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:52 AM   #7
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Re: Springs Placed on IR, Rumph Released

If we do not already have the most expensive safeties in history, then allocating springs cap number to that position would certainly make it so.
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:48 AM   #9
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i am not arguing that springs can play safety. but are people comfortable enough with Carlos Rogers as the #2 corner? and Wright as the nickle?
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i am not arguing that springs can play safety. but are people comfortable enough with Carlos Rogers as the #2 corner? and Wright as the nickle?
I think that in those packages we wouldn't have to put Springs at safety. Assuming we pick up Clements, we could have Vincent and Taylor at Safety, while Springs, Clements, and Rodgers play corner. I think that having Springs at safety will help prevent the deep ball, and hopefully Carlos Rodgers can pick up his play and make a decent number two corner next year. I think that in general Springs is a good player for us, remember how he D'd up Steve Smith in the Carolina game. The only thing that scares me is that he's getting a little old, so that's why having him a safety seems like a good idea to me. Also, I hope next year that Springs and Vincent can assume the roles of the leaders on defense. We need veterans with that kind of experience to direct the defense, especially the secondary.
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Old 12-28-2006, 12:00 PM   #11
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I think that in those packages we wouldn't have to put Springs at safety. Assuming we pick up Clements, we could have Vincent and Taylor at Safety, while Springs, Clements, and Rodgers play corner. I think that having Springs at safety will help prevent the deep ball, and hopefully Carlos Rodgers can pick up his play and make a decent number two corner next year. I think that in general Springs is a good player for us, remember how he D'd up Steve Smith in the Carolina game. The only thing that scares me is that he's getting a little old, so that's why having him a safety seems like a good idea to me. Also, I hope next year that Springs and Vincent can assume the roles of the leaders on defense. We need veterans with that kind of experience to direct the defense, especially the secondary.
i, for one, am not comfortable with vincent at safety. other than the blocked kick, he hasnt done anything but get torched like everyone else. hopefully preilou will come back healthy. to me he seemed like he was always around the ball
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:51 AM   #12
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Springs is going to be an injury concern wherever he plays. The possible move to safety doesn't have anything to do with protecting him from injury.

As he gets older he's going to lose a step, if he hasn't already just a bit. At safety you don't need the speed that you do at corner. Plus the move will give us some nice flexibility since he could easily fill in and start at corner when needed. I just like the fact we can shore up the safety spot and keep a quality veteran like him around.
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Old 12-28-2006, 12:56 PM   #13
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As long as we have the cash to MAINTAIN some people like Dockery and re-sign Cooley and Taylor, I'm cool with whatever they wanna' pay him.
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Old 12-28-2006, 01:07 PM   #14
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I don't understand those with concerns regarding the physicality of Springs playing safety. Have you seen him in run support? He hits hard. He'll be fine at safety.
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Old 12-28-2006, 03:34 PM   #15
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ok he looks pretty good.
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