Steve Czaban Article

celts32 · 01-04-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Washington did make the Pro Bowl in 2004, baldy needs to check his facts a little closer. Perhaps if he wasn't always shooting off like a rabid fan he would come off a little more legit.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story...

Beemnseven · 01-04-2007, 10:47 AM

Yep, and the fact of the matter is -- since Dan Snyder took over, his team has a losing record.

MTK · 01-04-2007, 11:01 AM

Guess it all depends on what his definition of a high priced FA is. For the sake of making his argument I guess Washington doesn't count, but it's a bit of a picky omission if you ask me. But I'm not arguing with the overall message of the article, I'm just debating his opinion of high priced.

jsarno · 01-04-2007, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by squrrelco3

That was addressed...Coles was not a FA signee, we had to trade to get him (give something to get something).

Wow, a restricted free agent is considered a trade by you guys? That's odd. I guess we should call it a restricted trade then. I wonder who the genius was that called that a free agent signing?

I guess anything to prove a point eh?

Redskinhog1963 · 01-07-2007, 12:51 AM

did'nt brad johnson make the pro bowl his first year?i'm not local,and czban comes on too early for me to listen to,but when i have heard and seen him on tv,he comes a cross as full of shit!

SmootSmack · 01-07-2007, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskinhog1963

did'nt brad johnson make the pro bowl his first year?i'm not local,and czban comes on too early for me to listen to,but when i have heard and seen him on tv,he comes a cross as full of shit!

I think we traded for Brad Johnson

dmek25 · 01-07-2007, 09:04 AM

czaban is an idiot who is getting his 15 minutes of fame right here

#56fanatic · 01-07-2007, 10:43 AM

I always say this when Snyders involvement in the team comes up. To blame Snyder for the troubles of the team is a bit ridiculous. He asks the coach (who ever that may be) who would make our team better. who would you like to have on the field. Joe, Al, GW, all give him an answer. Unfortunately, the coaches get the choice of who ever is out there. Dan simply writes the checks, or negotiates the contract(hardly ever really) Joe, Al, and GW are to blame or commend for the signings in the last 3 years. Steve Spurrier even got the pick of the best FA or restricted FA on the market when he came in. This blasting Snyder is stupid. Name another owner that takes everything he makes and puts back into OUR Redskins?! whether its at Fed-X to put as many fans in the stadium to support out team, or at Redskins park, or marketing OUR team.

Snyder loves the Redskins as much as anyone who is a die hard fan, and to question his motives is stupid. Yes he is a business man and wants to make money off OUR team, who wouldn't. And he is very (the best) successful it. but, he cares tremendously about OUR team, he wants US to win, why do you think he gives the coaches (who ironically coach the team and should know good talent) the ability to choose the players. Now, not that I am in agreement of that, I would prefer a GM, but until JOE GIBBS decides they need one, they will not have one. MR GIBBS should not be getting a free ride here, nor our mastermind Defensive coach. THey have chosen the free agents in the past 3 years that should make the team better and gotten rid of CORE REDSKINS for suposedly better higher priced players. GW had to have AA, would not let him leave without a contract. Joe and AL had to have Duckett, had to have Randel El, brandon Lloyd (personally, I think Santana, Patten and Trash would have done no worse, plus the guys we cut from training camp who looked to be a pretty damn good WR, but forgot his name) OUR Coach is not here to build for the future, nor has anyone with any football acuman been able to convince Snyder to do so.

Is that bad? Well, Snyder wants to win every year, and yes that comes at a price. As fans, I would rather win consistantly than win every 5 years. Now that hasn't happend in 15 years, but again, Dan is not the sole bearer of repsonsiblity for that. All these media people want to blame him, jump or come up with there own conclusions. they blast him for not commenting to the media. Why would he?? when he did, you (the media) blasted him saying he was too involved for an owner. Now he takes the back seat and gets blasted for not saying a word. Its not like the situations are different either, so dont try that. They were losing then too!! When does Joe and the "greatest coaching staff ever assembled" get blamed for any of the 2 season of losing! As of right now, the way this organization is run is probably not the best or most idealistic, but like I said earlier, BIG JOE will have to decide on the GM move. Dan will not hire one unless JOE wants one. I am just wondering am I the only Redskin fan that feels this way?? Last i checked, Dan has nothing to do with game planning, coaching our offense of defense. Which, if I remember correctly are directly involved with winning and losing games. And, If i also remember those two areas were the two items blasted the most during the season. "offense isn't clicking..blah blah blah, our D stinks...blah blah blah."

Now its Dans fault?! not sure how that comes about, but you are entitled to you opinions. The way I look at it, it took Joe, 10 weeks to figure out Brunell sucks, (well, 3 years to be exact) Just think about this, how bad would we have been had our D not been 3rd and 9th the previous two years?? GW was the one that said Walt Harris, antonio pierce, smoot, LaVar, Ryan Clark, Bowen were all replaceable. however, Smoot, Pierce, Clark, LaVar were all this thing called CORE REDSKINS. I am sick of hearing that. They are no more core redskins that I am a coach. If they were, they would all be here. Lets take a second to remember who is getting blasted the most, once players leave. THE COACHING STAFF. Players say coaches are the ones to blame. no one is blaming dan when they leave. these are the people around the team more than anyone. In closing, I would like to know who truely blame this teams struggles on Dan?

I am emailing this to Zaban. hopefully he will respond!

heavyjumbo · 01-07-2007, 11:21 AM

the redskins are done. Gibbs is done. When you lose you die a little, when you win you are reborn. Sorry to say i feel dead. Gibbs said this is his worst year, and i feel the same. I wish i got 5 million for my worst year.

RobH4413 · 01-07-2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by heavyjumbo

the redskins are done. Gibbs is done. When you lose you die a little, when you win you are reborn. Sorry to say i feel dead. Gibbs said this is his worst year, and i feel the same. I wish i got 5 million for my worst year.

hahaha, yeah me too....

welcome to the board btw..

Anyone will tell you I'm usually a little overly optimistic about my skins, but I've never been this excited about an upcoming year. Finally Jason Campbell get's to have an offseason knowing this is "his team"...

The kid is good, and is going to win games.

The defense will be an interesting thing to watch.

Redskinhog1963 · 01-07-2007, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I think we traded for Brad Johnson

you're right,it slipped my so called mind my friend.he did go to the pro bowl
did'nt he?did deion sanders go to the pro bowl as a kick returner his only year in dc?

01-04-2007, 10:47 AM	#32
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Steve Czaban Article Yep, and the fact of the matter is -- since Dan Snyder took over, his team has a losing record.

01-04-2007, 11:01 AM	#33
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: Steve Czaban Article Guess it all depends on what his definition of a high priced FA is. For the sake of making his argument I guess Washington doesn't count, but it's a bit of a picky omission if you ask me. But I'm not arguing with the overall message of the article, I'm just debating his opinion of high priced. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-07-2007, 12:51 AM	#35
Redskinhog1963 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: somewhere on this planet Age: 61 Posts: 178	Re: Steve Czaban Article did'nt brad johnson make the pro bowl his first year?i'm not local,and czban comes on too early for me to listen to,but when i have heard and seen him on tv,he comes a cross as full of shit! __________________ Parcells' legacy with the Cowboys can be framed this way: Instead of joining Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer as coaches who led them to championships, he leaves lumped with Chan Gailey and Dave Campo. (ESPN QUOTE)

01-07-2007, 09:04 AM	#37
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Steve Czaban Article czaban is an idiot who is getting his 15 minutes of fame right here __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

01-07-2007, 10:43 AM	#38
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 50 Posts: 1,801	Re: Steve Czaban Article I always say this when Snyders involvement in the team comes up. To blame Snyder for the troubles of the team is a bit ridiculous. He asks the coach (who ever that may be) who would make our team better. who would you like to have on the field. Joe, Al, GW, all give him an answer. Unfortunately, the coaches get the choice of who ever is out there. Dan simply writes the checks, or negotiates the contract(hardly ever really) Joe, Al, and GW are to blame or commend for the signings in the last 3 years. Steve Spurrier even got the pick of the best FA or restricted FA on the market when he came in. This blasting Snyder is stupid. Name another owner that takes everything he makes and puts back into OUR Redskins?! whether its at Fed-X to put as many fans in the stadium to support out team, or at Redskins park, or marketing OUR team. Snyder loves the Redskins as much as anyone who is a die hard fan, and to question his motives is stupid. Yes he is a business man and wants to make money off OUR team, who wouldn't. And he is very (the best) successful it. but, he cares tremendously about OUR team, he wants US to win, why do you think he gives the coaches (who ironically coach the team and should know good talent) the ability to choose the players. Now, not that I am in agreement of that, I would prefer a GM, but until JOE GIBBS decides they need one, they will not have one. MR GIBBS should not be getting a free ride here, nor our mastermind Defensive coach. THey have chosen the free agents in the past 3 years that should make the team better and gotten rid of CORE REDSKINS for suposedly better higher priced players. GW had to have AA, would not let him leave without a contract. Joe and AL had to have Duckett, had to have Randel El, brandon Lloyd (personally, I think Santana, Patten and Trash would have done no worse, plus the guys we cut from training camp who looked to be a pretty damn good WR, but forgot his name) OUR Coach is not here to build for the future, nor has anyone with any football acuman been able to convince Snyder to do so. Is that bad? Well, Snyder wants to win every year, and yes that comes at a price. As fans, I would rather win consistantly than win every 5 years. Now that hasn't happend in 15 years, but again, Dan is not the sole bearer of repsonsiblity for that. All these media people want to blame him, jump or come up with there own conclusions. they blast him for not commenting to the media. Why would he?? when he did, you (the media) blasted him saying he was too involved for an owner. Now he takes the back seat and gets blasted for not saying a word. Its not like the situations are different either, so dont try that. They were losing then too!! When does Joe and the "greatest coaching staff ever assembled" get blamed for any of the 2 season of losing! As of right now, the way this organization is run is probably not the best or most idealistic, but like I said earlier, BIG JOE will have to decide on the GM move. Dan will not hire one unless JOE wants one. I am just wondering am I the only Redskin fan that feels this way?? Last i checked, Dan has nothing to do with game planning, coaching our offense of defense. Which, if I remember correctly are directly involved with winning and losing games. And, If i also remember those two areas were the two items blasted the most during the season. "offense isn't clicking..blah blah blah, our D stinks...blah blah blah." Now its Dans fault?! not sure how that comes about, but you are entitled to you opinions. The way I look at it, it took Joe, 10 weeks to figure out Brunell sucks, (well, 3 years to be exact) Just think about this, how bad would we have been had our D not been 3rd and 9th the previous two years?? GW was the one that said Walt Harris, antonio pierce, smoot, LaVar, Ryan Clark, Bowen were all replaceable. however, Smoot, Pierce, Clark, LaVar were all this thing called CORE REDSKINS. I am sick of hearing that. They are no more core redskins that I am a coach. If they were, they would all be here. Lets take a second to remember who is getting blasted the most, once players leave. THE COACHING STAFF. Players say coaches are the ones to blame. no one is blaming dan when they leave. these are the people around the team more than anyone. In closing, I would like to know who truely blame this teams struggles on Dan? I am emailing this to Zaban. hopefully he will respond! Last edited by SmootSmack; 01-07-2007 at 01:14 PM. Reason: Broken into paragraphs to make it more legible

01-07-2007, 11:21 AM	#39
heavyjumbo Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1	Re: Steve Czaban Article the redskins are done. Gibbs is done. When you lose you die a little, when you win you are reborn. Sorry to say i feel dead. Gibbs said this is his worst year, and i feel the same. I wish i got 5 million for my worst year. Last edited by heavyjumbo; 01-07-2007 at 11:25 AM. Reason: spelling

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