(MERGE): Redskins Sign London Fletcher

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

This money seems about right. In fact it seems downright cheap.

exactly that is cheap for the skins plus he makes 50% or 12.5 of the 25 mill in the next 2 years

[offiss]

This is ridiculous, 25 mil coupled with a 10 and a half mil. signing bonus? No wonder we are the only team he visited. And there you have it another big money guy on his way out, we just refuse to use the draft. Were just lost as a team.

And there it is we are forced into overpaying for an ageing undersized MLB because we have no picks to draft a MLB like a Patrick Willis, so we cover up that fact with Fletcher. Lets see what a big difference there is between him and Marshall.

Fletcher is going to be real happy if the rumor is correct and we take Adams, an undersized MLB and 2 undersized DE's, a Recipe for disaster.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by offiss

This is ridiculous, 25 mil coupled with a 10 and a half mil. signing bonus? No wonder we are the only team he visited. And there you have it another big money guy on his way out, we just refuse to use the draft. Were just lost as a team.

And there it is we are forced into overpaying for an ageing undersized MLB because we have no picks to draft a MLB like a Patrick Willis, so we cover up that fact with Fletcher. Lets see what a big difference there is between him and Marshall.

Fletcher is going to be real happy if the rumor is correct and we take Adams, an undersized MLB and 2 undersized DE's, a Recipe for disaster.

If we go 4 - 12, we will all congratulate you on your prophetic gift.

Did you hear that the Jets cut loose Ramsey earlier? Mangini is such a prick.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

If we go 4 - 12, we will all congratulate you on your prophetic gift.

Did you hear that the Jets cut loose Ramsey earlier? Mangini is such a prick.

Well if thats the case you have plenty of congradulations already to make up for.

Like Betts, Lavar, Brunell, I could go on and on but I doubt you'll really ever get it.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by offiss

This is ridiculous, 25 mil coupled with a 10 and a half mil. signing bonus? No wonder we are the only team he visited. And there you have it another big money guy on his way out, we just refuse to use the draft. Were just lost as a team.

And there it is we are forced into overpaying for an ageing undersized MLB because we have no picks to draft a MLB like a Patrick Willis, so we cover up that fact with Fletcher. Lets see what a big difference there is between him and Marshall.

Fletcher is going to be real happy if the rumor is correct and we take Adams, an undersized MLB and 2 undersized DE's, a Recipe for disaster.

Yeah, free agents love us because we throw so much money at players on the decline. Signing a linebacker who will turn 32 this year just does nothing for me.

[Questfor31]

As a Bills fan, I 've been watching London Fletcher for the last five years. He's been an asset at Middle Linebacker for the Buffalo Bills, leading the team in tackles just about every year, but in my opinion on the wrong side of thirty, London Fletcher is not worth a five year, $25 million contract. I think you guys have got yourself a player, but his best years are behind him.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Questfor31

As a Bills fan, I 've been watching London Fletcher for the last five years. He's been an asset at Middle Linebacker for the Buffalo Bills, leading the team in tackles just about every year, but in my opinion on the wrong side of thirty, London Fletcher is not worth a five year, $25 million contract. I think you guys have got yourself a player, but his best years are behind him.

Care to comment on the Dockery Deal?

[Dirtbag59]

I felt that this would make for an intresting compariosn
2006 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 78 | Key
Alert: B (Bulk)

Comment:
Fletcher has excellent experience, durability and toughness. He plays in regular and sub packages. He is competitive, active and hard-working. He handles all of the Bills' calls and adjustments within the box. He has good recognition skills and key-and-diagnose against the run and pass. He is an instinctive tackler who has sideline-to-sideline range. He can slide, stay square, avoid and play through trash in the box. He has a knack for timing up his blitzes and pressuring quarterbacks. He can open his hips and get good depth in underneath zones. He still has the speed to carry the vertical seam in cover 2. He has very good awareness and effectively communicates pattern recognition. He can match up with tight ends or backs over short areas in man-to-man. But Fletcher is undersized and lacks ideal power. He isn't a natural take-on player. He can get engulfed by bigger blockers and driven out of run lanes. He knows how to use his hands but lacks explosiveness in his stack-and-shed. He doesn't always protect his lower half when moving downhill.

2006 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 72 | Key
Alert: None

Comment:
Pierce is athletic, heady and very reliable. He reacts to the ball and follows his instincts, but he is efficient and makes few mistakes. He seems to have a very good understanding of his role and position. He has a great feel for angles and awareness of blockers. He has sideline-to-sideline range, uses his hands effectively and gets over trash. He moves well laterally and changes direction quickly. He has the hips and speed to turn and run with tight ends or backs in man-to-man. He gets good depth on his zone drops. He gets good jumps off the snap and doesn't waste much movement. He plays under control and is a good open-field tackler. His anticipation and instincts give him some blitzing potential. But Pierce is undersized and lacks power. He won't fill the hole, take on blockers or stack and shed effectively at the point of attack. He can be engulfed and moved out of the hole by big linemen. He runs around some blocks and opens up run lanes.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I felt that this would make for an intresting compariosn
2006 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 78 | Key
Alert: B (Bulk)

Comment:
Fletcher has excellent experience, durability and toughness. He plays in regular and sub packages. He is competitive, active and hard-working. He handles all of the Bills' calls and adjustments within the box. He has good recognition skills and key-and-diagnose against the run and pass. He is an instinctive tackler who has sideline-to-sideline range. He can slide, stay square, avoid and play through trash in the box. He has a knack for timing up his blitzes and pressuring quarterbacks. He can open his hips and get good depth in underneath zones. He still has the speed to carry the vertical seam in cover 2. He has very good awareness and effectively communicates pattern recognition. He can match up with tight ends or backs over short areas in man-to-man. But Fletcher is undersized and lacks ideal power. He isn't a natural take-on player. He can get engulfed by bigger blockers and driven out of run lanes. He knows how to use his hands but lacks explosiveness in his stack-and-shed. He doesn't always protect his lower half when moving downhill.

I've highlighted the two statements that jump up at me. I don't know if Marshall ever got comfortable with the mental aspect of MLB. I have no evidence of that (except this signing today), its just a feeling. I hope Lemar keeps a starting job outside. It was wrong to try to move him, IMO.

The second one about cover 2 will be great if true. Hopefully that's not just what his agent thinks. A lot of these analysis summaries are full of subjective opinions. Informed opinions, you hope, but still. Williams asks his MLB to cover downfield a lot. If Fletcher can stil run that would be helpful.

[hooskins]

You guys dont think he was a bit overpaid for his age...? I realize there are no other options, but still.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hooskins

You guys dont think he was a bit overpaid for his age...? I realize there are no other options, but still.

Compared to the deals going down right now, no.

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by Questfor31

As a Bills fan, I 've been watching London Fletcher for the last five years. He's been an asset at Middle Linebacker for the Buffalo Bills, leading the team in tackles just about every year, but in my opinion on the wrong side of thirty, London Fletcher is not worth a five year, $25 million contract. I think you guys have got yourself a player, but his best years are behind him.

You maybe right...as for Dockery you got a player that I believe has reached his best days. He is not going to get any better. He may be the same for a few years but he is what he is middle of the road lineman. A lot of money for a team that has so many needs. By the way isn't it your team that didn't like last year agreement with the players and the NFL. Saying your team could sign player for this kind of cash. I guess your owner found 49 million in a locker.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by RedskinPete

You maybe right...as for Dockery you got a player that I believe has reached his best days. He is not going to get any better. He may be the same for a few years but he is what he is middle of the road lineman. A lot of money for a team that has so many needs. By the way isn't it your team that didn't like last year agreement with the players and the NFL. Saying your team could sign player for this kind of cash. I guess your owner found 49 million in a locker.

well, snyder's now forced to fork over something like 3mill a year from his highest grossing team to the lowest grossing one i believe. like that'd even matter .

i don't know what the market is now, its so erratic... sellers, roster fill LBs etc seem to be working on last year's pay scale, but some teams (Bills, 49ers), seem to be spending ridiculous amounts.

[70Chip]

Yeah, I don't get it all.

I will say that "London" is a cool first name. Having a geographical place as a first name can make a strong statement about someone's personal style. Some other examples:

Minnesota Fats
Amarillo Slim
Tennessee Williams
Tennessee Ernie Ford
Virginia Woolfe
Gary U.S Bonds
Tokyo Rose
Johnny Knoxville
Denver Pyle
Tex Ritter
England Dan

Update:
Jack London (can't believe I forgot him)
Joel Cairo (Peter Lorre character in The Maltese Falcon)
Charlotte Rae (What you talking about Miss Garett)
Montgomery Clift
Dallas Green
Houston Nutt
River Phoenix and sibs
Buffalo Bill/Bob
Isaiah/Irving Berlin
Tim Richmond

[offiss]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Yeah, I don't get it all.

I will say that "London" is a cool first name. Having a geographical place as a first name can make a strong statement about someone's personal style. Some other examples:

Minnesota Fats
Amarillo Slim
Tennessee Williams
Tennessee Ernie Ford
Virginia Woolfe
Gary U.S Bonds
Tokyo Rose
Johnny Knoxville
Denver Pyle
Tex Ritter
England Dan

lol

Jersey Joe Walcot
Texas Dolly