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| View Poll Results: Why Aren't We Winning More | |||
| Front Office Hasn't Gotten the Coaches the Players |
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18 | 26.87% |
| Front Office Has Gotten the Right Players But at Too High a Cost Long Term |
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28 | 41.79% |
| Coaches Are Misusing the Talent We Have |
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21 | 31.34% |
| Voters: 67. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Re: Big C's "Is It the Talent" Poll
i think the reason we're not winning is cause we have no team chemistry and we have an owner who doent know football,and thinks he can buy a championship.hes like a kid in a cany store.
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Living Legend
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: VA
Age: 43
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Re: Big C's "Is It the Talent" Poll
bad scouting and bad signings hurt. last year's class included two vastly overpaid players (el, carter) and two busts (lloyd, arch), not to mention that whole duckett thing.
It's cool though, I mean, it's not like the draft's ever helped anyone. |
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Living Legend
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 38
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Re: Big C's "Is It the Talent" Poll
Remember, our D just didn't force any turnovers last year. It's just wasn't part of our game. So with consistenly crappy field position, that explains the drop in points from 2005 to 2006. The offenses on the whole weren't much different. But the 2006 team was starting every drive from their own 20, and that probably was the No. 1 contributer to the decrease in overall pts from 2005.
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 331
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Re: Big C's "Is It the Talent" Poll
Coaches play to win. In essence, they are "win now" entities and that is completely understandable. That, along with the fact that we have not gotten consistent above average QB play for well over a decade, (MB definitley included), are some of the main problems with our team. Joe Gibbs and the coaching staff help the pro scouts and Vinny Cerrato decide who can help us win. The problem I see, and people outside and inside Redskins' Land have been commenting on it for a number of years, is that who is responsible for setting the long term goals of this team? We consistanly overlook long term decisions for the team by making choices in the name of "win now". Honestly, even though most fans are praising our offseason, the Baker and Smoot signings scream of this. Hey, I understand that Joe came back to save the franchise, but because he got lured in to thinking he could do it through FA and not the draft, Redskins are gonna have even more hell to pay down the road. Now, for the Joe II era at least, we don't have time for the draft.
Also, have you ever noticed that everytime we have a high draft pick since Heath Shuler we for whatever reason are not looking at QB. It is really frustrating. You get high draft picks because your team sucks, simple as that. If I took over the Skins, the first thing I would do is make sure we have a QB who is going to truly give us a "best chance to win", year in and year out. That's why picking up players like Brad Johnson, Jeff George, and MB really sucks to me, and those are the best one's we've had around. They make you think you have a fighting chance with them, and you do. But they won't really take you there unless the perfect storm happens around them like it did for Dilfer in Baltimore, and Johnson in TB. And were are they now? The Ravens have another aging guy in McNair. TB has the so so prospect of Chris Simms and now Jeff Garcia. If you don't fix the QB situation right, it comes back to haunt you year after year, and in order to "win now" you end up taking expensive flyers on these aging pros. QB is a constant problem for us, and always will be until we find someone who can give us a legitimate "best chance to win". If it's not Campbell, I hope we don't turn to another guy like Mark Brunell. Yeah, we might get lucky with a guy like that for a season or two, but where is that gonna put us long term? |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arlington, VA
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Re: Big C's "Is It the Talent" Poll
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
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Re: Big C's "Is It the Talent" Poll
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Since then there have been 4 great QB prospects in Cutler, Leinart, Young, and now Quinn. I guess my point is that great QBs are few and far between, but the quantity of them in the NFL is increasing now a days. We may have stumbled upon a great prospect in Campbell. Eventually though, winning goes beyond QB play. A QB can put up great numbers by virtue of his own skill, but wins are as much a part of every other unit than the QB. You have to build a team around a guy you trust at QB. We don't have time to draft another great QB prospect everytime our current guy has a setback. Campbell may not make the league forget Dan Marino, but I think he's going to give us solid to great numbers in the future. We need to give him a defense if we want to be a perrenial playoff team under him though. "The perfect storm" that you suggest is hardly perfect. Just the combination of a great team and timely luck. Luck will fluctuate for us, but a great team will get us deep into the playoffs. A great QB makes a team better, but he does not win games by himself.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Re: Big C's "Is It the Talent" Poll
Wasup Skins Fans....When you lose especially with all the money spent last year everything is magnified 10 fold. This team has talent but it took on too many things (new offense,new players,etc.) and never gave itself an opportunity because they were'nt settled in to the scheme or which players worked well in that scheme. Campbell had no time in with the first team or the offense, Portis was hurt, the Defense had injuries across the board.The front office seems to be more detailed and prudent this year and heres hoping that a deal comes about that helps us add some depth to both the OL & DL and we also need at least one more solid DB but we are by no means as bad as it looked last season and even though there are some me first guys on this team there are also some good players with a lot of pride who cant wait to make up for what happend last year.............HAIL TO THE REDSKINS.......
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
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Re: Big C's "Is It the Talent" Poll
It was essentially we had a well-oiled machine until some vital cogs of that machine were changed and removed.
Equate last year's team to a very fast car. Sure, it's great and consistent when the entire car is running to it's top potential. But say you take the same car, put a transmission that wasn't made for it in the car (Archuleta) and have the car only running on half the cylinders (missing Springs) and you still have basically the same car without nearly the same effectiveness. Sure, it's a team sport, but when important pieces of the puzzle are missing or hurt, it's going to make a HUGE difference in how the team performs.
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: PA
Age: 47
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Re: Big C's "Is It the Talent" Poll
How about bad luck with injuries and getting robbed by refs?
That's my answer. |
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The Starter
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,351
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Re: Big C's "Is It the Talent" Poll
On offense, we have the talent but don't have the QB to get the ball around, right now. I like JC, he's improving, but it's to early to tell how his career is going to progress.
On D, I think we lack the talent and depth at a few spots that is needed to be a top D in the league. We got injured and old quickly in a few areas and didn't have the depth for players to step in. |
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Special Teams
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 227
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Re: Big C's "Is It the Talent" Poll
all in all its the owners fault cause he makes the final decision.plus if a team has no chemistry they dont win.the snyde doesnt know football.he should sell the team to kent cooks son who has football in the blood.
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Special Teams
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 331
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Re: Big C's "Is It the Talent" Poll
Look at Payton Manning before he won this year. I'm sure every offseason Indy fans would wonder why they didn't win it all with him at QB. Heck, look at Dan Marino; he never won. No, getting a legitimate QB who is going to grow with the team doesn't garauntee you anything. It is just the best place to start. It seems like the Skins didn't get the message. Would you like some John Friez with that?
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