Sean Taylor at Free Safety and LaRon Landry at Strong Safety

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

and how was okoye a once in a lifetime prospect

Um...19 years old, 4 year college starter...

ESPN beat that into our heads for 5 straight weeks, remember?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I do consider Landry to be a good cover safety. Taylor's a hitter. Landry has the complete game...or at least he will once he gets some NFL experience.

Still, its hard to justify passing on a once in a lifetime prospect (Okoye) at a need position.

Love the player (Landry), hate the pick.

taylor has the complete game as well and was a better prospect than landry coming out dont forget that

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

taylor has the complete game as well and was a better prospect than landry coming out dont forget that

Was he a higher rated player?

Maybe so, I know Mayock had him as his number one rated player.

People fall in love with physical skills. It's the NFL, everyone is crazy athletic. The mental part is what seperates the players in this league.

I'm officially on record that Landry will be the better of the two safeties for his career.

[RobH4413]

I'm watching the GW press conference right now and it's getting me pumped up.

I'm paraphrasing, but here is some of what I got from the interview:

"Sean Taylor will be in position now to go get the ball... Last year we brought him up in the box a lot, but I want him to go get the ball this year",

"Landry likes to hunt people down, if you watch his sugar bowl game film, he wasn't just winning his man to man match ups, he was hunting people down... and that's what we want to do on defense"

"When we had a pro workout with some players, the best person who had a workout wasn't LaRon... Jason Campbell was the best out there. You can tell he has put a lot of work in. From a defensive stand point I can see that how much work he's put in, and thats good"

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Duffman003

am i the only person that feels like we have 5 linebackers playing and is worried about that? I mean i love ST but i dont consider him a very good cover safety

yes u are and what sean taylor were you watching to say he is not a good cover safety that is crazy talk

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

yes u are and what sean taylor were you watching to say he is not a good cover safety that is crazy talk

The one that forgot that he was playing football on the Donte Stallworth touchdown.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The one that forgot that he was playing football on the Donte Stallworth touchdown.

so ur basing his football cover skills on a single touchdown if that is the case then champ bailey sucks for the chad johnson game in 04 and the jerry porter game in 05

[FRPLG]

I am guessing we won't run anything like a traditional safety coverage. We have two guys who can do multiple things well. They'll both play a hybrid and we'll eschew having a designated strong and free. Oh maybe they'll be called one or the other but they wont play that much differently. Situation and a desire to mix it up will mean they both are covering and blitzing.

[MTK]

Interesting move by GW. I think he's looking to simplify things by limiting their roles and not putting so much on their plates.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Interesting move by GW. I think he's looking to simplify things by limiting their roles and not putting so much on their plates.

I hope and think he realizes they did a bit too much last year with a lack of good personnel. He probably sees his "amazing" system needs some tweaks, and I hope he is coming off his high horse. We can hope this an arrogant person's ways of realizing they were wrong.

Lets also keep in mind if he is to be Gibbs heir, then I think he realizes he cant fuck up this year.

[Daseal]

I think once the two safeties get acquainted with one another that STs tendency to bite on every pump fake will get better. Last year ST tried to do everything and that hurt him all the way around. I think GWill wants to keep this relatively simple to start and slowly add more and more wrinkles to it.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I think once the two safeties get acquainted with one another that STs tendency to bite on every pump fake will get better. Last year ST tried to do everything and that hurt him all the way around. I think GWill wants to keep this relatively simple to start and slowly add more and more wrinkles to it.

I think you are right to an extent.

A lot of what Taylor was doing last year seemed to be accounting for the run because he didn't trust the front 7 to do their jobs (and for good reason). So with Fletcher and Landry on board, there is theroretically more reason for Taylor to have faith in the front 7 to do their jobs.

However, breaking a bad habit is very hard to do. It's hardwired into his mind to be agressive whenever he sees play action. There is no guarentee that the coaches have nearly enough power to change that. You can tell him what he's doing wrong ad nauseum. You can threaten to sit him. But if he sees playaction and instinctively steps foward, he's always going to be out of position. At this point, there may be little our coaches can do for him.

If he works at it, he can get better at showing patience over time. But in effect, we may be changing the way he plays the game. The output may be an entirely different player, and that could be for the better, but also it could be for the worse.

There are zero certainties surrounding Taylor right now. He could be very good, or he could be very average. Or maybe he doesn't change, still lays the wood to backs and receivers over the middle and still costs us many points against the play action pass. Who knows?

I think one of the perks about Landry is he's a very technically sound player, and if we are very, very lucky, some of that might rub off on ST. But only if he's willing to take some pointers from a rook.

[JWsleep]

Well, no doubt that our cover-2 was WEAK last year, so moving to cover-1 has got to help.

I think that freeing up Taylor is good. The crucial thing is that if teams go away from Taylor, then LaRon can hold up his end in coverage. But his main role will be to crack skulls and help in the box.

Either way, we've imporved our secondary trememdously. And it's nice to hear GW trying to fix things--his rep is on the line here as well.

[holcknowsbest]

sean taylors ball skills are absolutely unbelievale and the thought of him being back where he can make plays(both ints and hits), is gonna be fun to watch. landry is perfect for us man because his ability to recognize and react is awesome. he will be making so many plays at or behind the line of scrimmage. man i swear we are so due for a big turnover year man, we havent had a bunch of turnovers in awhile. in 05 we had a good amount but not a huge amount, we are due and these two guys are gonna lead the charge.

[Daseal]

Because defensive linemen have the highest bust rate in the NFL and our need for D Line help is overly exaggerated?

*I know DEs often bust, can't say the same for DTs necessarily.