Bengals Lewis suggests his players are being targeted by police!

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You may want to check you local laws but cops cannot just ask a person to take a breath teast. Yes they can ask you to pull over to ask you questions and if they smell alc. they can then ask you to do those little road test. If then they ask you to blow in their hand held tester it is not permissible in court because it has to be done by a person certified to do the test. Yes they can include it in their evidence but they cannot convict you of DUI by that test alone. The reason they ask permission to do the road side test is that it will confirm their suspicions and if you noticed I said asked permission. This is voluntary as the cop is not cert. as I mentioned above.

Yeah the part I failed to mention was he asked if I had anything to drink that night, and I said I had a beer with dinner (which was like 6 hours before getting pulled over). But regardless, if you indicate that you've had anything to drink, I think they have probable cause to test you. I'm no lawyer though.

[Schneed10]

In fact, when cops profile people, I'd say that race is only a small part of the equation. If a cop sees a young black man driving a Mercedes on 20-inch chrome wheels, hat to the side, with N.W.A. pumping from the system; and then the cop sees a middle aged black man driving a Honda Accord wearing a shirt and tie with Stevie Wonder playing at a normal level, the cop is going to profile those two very differently.

Now, the older guy could be on his way to sell some drugs, and the younger guy could be on his way to a job interview for all we know. Or both of them could be on their way to job interviews. But if I'm a cop and I see both men forget to turn on their blinker before turning, I'm going to pull the younger guy over and let the older guy go.

[Hog1]

When I was a kid, I used to drive a fairly tricked out 61' Corvette. (A restoration project I bought out of a barnyard where it had been sitting for 10 years). It drew the attn of every cop in a 6 county radius. They profiled me as someone who was ABUSING the local speed, noise, safety statutes with abandon for that time.
Guess what........they were right!

[hooskins]

There is a huge element of truth to this, perhaps not by the cops but the media. I love how everyone wanted to crucify Henry even though it was just a report that was not official.

That is a bit a too extreme.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

#1. Marvin Lewis explicitly stated in the past that he had to draft some talented players with character issues since no free agents wanted to go to Cincy. So, to that extent, Marvin shouldn't complain about players who he drafted and who had prior character issues getting arrested. He had fair warning, acknowledged that he took a risk, and he took a couple of hits on those gambles.

#2. As for the players, if they are engaging in criminal activities, they should never complain about getting busted. As corny as it sounds, if you can do the crime, be prepared to do the time.

#3. Profiling does exist and, while it may make sense to many who are not subjected to it, there are an awful lot of innocent people who get harassed by cops because they fit a "profile." For those of you who have not been subject to profiling, you probably don't think that being singled out, stopped, questioned, and treated like a thug is a big deal. But, I can tell you that many of you (particularly those with right or libertarian leaning political persuasions) would be offended by profiling if you were actually a constant target of police. I'm not saying that profiling, of whatever kind, should always be banned. I am saying, however, that it is easy to enthusiastically support profiling when you are not subjected to it.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

#1. Marvin Lewis explicitly stated in the past that he had to draft some talented players with character issues since no free agents wanted to go to Cincy. So, to that extent, Marvin shouldn't complain about players who he drafted and who had prior character issues getting arrested. He had fair warning, acknowledged that he took a risk, and he took a couple of hits on those gambles.

#2. As for the players, if they are engaging in criminal activities, they should never complain about getting busted. As corny as it sounds, if you can do the crime, be prepared to do the time.

#3. Profiling does exist and, while it may make sense to many who are not subjected to it, there are an awful lot of innocent people who get harassed by cops because they fit a "profile." For those of you who have not been subject to profiling, you probably don't think that being singled out, stopped, questioned, and treated like a thug is a big deal. But, I can tell you that many of you (particularly those with right or libertarian leaning political persuasions) would be offended by profiling if you were actually a constant target of police. I'm not saying that profiling, of whatever kind, should always be banned. I am saying, however, that it is easy to enthusiastically support profiling when you are not subjected to it.

Nice Job Sheriff..it's too easy for people to sit back and preach from their soap boxes... not ever having been subjected to any of it...

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by railcon56

Nice Job Sheriff..it's too easy for people to sit back and preach from their soap boxes... not ever having been subjected to any of it...

Thanks, but in re-reading my post, I realized that it comes off as a little patronizing. I stand by the basic points I tried to make in the post, but I didn't mean to sound obnoxious.