Joyner: Cooley underrated

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I do think he is "replaceable". Guys like Heap, Miller, Witten, CLark and a handful of others are just as skilled and talented but he is a home grown guy who plays his butt off and seems like a locker room leader type and you'd have to pay those other guys just as much. This is a case, as it often is, where a guy, based on talent and skill alone, is worth a certain amount on the open market and based on chemistry and so forth is worth a little more to us. No need to le thim walk unless his contract demands are just out of line. Give him a top 5 deal/extension and move on to Taylor. It would be silly to let it get to the point where he would leave.

You can't replace Cooley, he is very HUMBLE, team-player, does everything what coaches ask of him, he never drop ball (thanks to someone in earlier strings to remind me, I never realized that until he brought it up), and everything.. And u say that he is replaceable?

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

You can't replace Cooley, he is very HUMBLE, team-player, does everything what coaches ask of him, he never drop ball (thanks to someone in earlier strings to remind me, I never realized that until he brought it up), and everything.. And u say that he is replaceable?

did you watch all the games? cooley dropped his fair share

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Shhhhhhhhhhhh!

We're trying to extend him. Don't pump up his market value.

Is there anyone who is a Redskins fan who doesn't believe that Cooley is a top 5 TE in the league right now? I can't think of 5 better.

Gonzo
Gates
Heap maybe

I mean there are a lot of guys who could come in and probably do just as well. Miller, Witten, Smith, Clark are all pretty even talent and skill wise compared to Cooley but Cooley fits so well in the system and is used extremely well. He runs good routes, knows how to get open, runs heavyand hard, catches almost anything thrown his way, it goes on and on. In short just does everything he is supposed to do very well. He doesn't have the athleticism of Gates or Gonzo but after those guys he is as good as anyone in the league.

Gates then Cooley, in my opinion. Who can burn in the open field and break tackles like Chris Cooley?

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by dmek25

did you watch all the games? cooley dropped his fair share

I didn't watch all games cuz I was in Rochester, I'm student of RIT.. I had to go to Tully's to watch Skins' games.. Maybe he dropped his fair share but not much, I mean, not much for most of us to remember..

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Actually hooskins made me to think of one question.. How come Cooley has never been to probowl??

because he is underrated

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by dmek25

did you watch all the games? cooley dropped his fair share

???

I can think of one. That is how few he drops. One sticks out in 3 seasons.

And let's not go overboard on his talent level guys. He is good for sure but athletically he doesn't touch Gates or Gonzo. He simply does the lesser athletic tasks of a TE extremely well and that compensates a lot for his athleticism. Not to say he isn't athletic but he isn't in the super atletic freak mold of Gates or Gonzo

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I try to not get too attached to players, but Cooley is one guy that if the Skins let walk, I'd seriously be disappointed. He's a character and he's a baller. Hard to hate on that.

So was Pierce. Dude came in as an undrafted FA and became a starter and a leader on our defense. But I understand what your saying about Cooley. It's hard not to like him, and his laid back attitude.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

???

I can think of one. That is how few he drops. One sticks out in 3 seasons.

And let's not go overboard on his talent level guys. He is good for sure but athletically he doesn't touch Gates or Gonzo. He simply does the lesser athletic tasks of a TE extremely well and that compensates a lot for his athleticism. Not to say he isn't athletic but he isn't in the super atletic freak mold of Gates or Gonzo

I'm sorry, but I still stand by the fact that he is a better overall player than Gates. He does EVERYTHING exceptionally well. Gates is probably a better pass catcher, but Cooley runs after better, blocks better, and basically is better overall (in my opinion).

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

How many 19 year olds are going to come out with first round talent AND 4 years of college?

I'd be pretty shocked if it ever happened again.

I don't think there is any question Okoye is going to be a really good to great player someday. But he is going to need two or three years before he really develops into that type of player. He wasn't the right pick for us IMO.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

You can't replace Cooley, he is very HUMBLE, team-player, does everything what coaches ask of him, he never drop ball (thanks to someone in earlier strings to remind me, I never realized that until he brought it up), and everything.. And u say that he is replaceable?

I think TE in the NFL is an easy position to fill unless you have Gates, Gonzalez or even Kellen Winslow. Yes, I said Winslow. He led in NFL in TE receptions his first year on the field with a suspect QB so he is a serious difference maker. Cooley is not A. Gates or T. Gonzalez. So he is replaceable IMO. But no question he is very valubale part of our offense and seems to have real good chemistry with JC.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you say Cooley was replaceable?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I'm assuming replaceable by another top three (top two for me) TE in the league? Also, remember that the Browns had NO receivers to speak of.

[saden1]

It's not Cooley, it how he is used. He is definitely not easily replaceable.

[GusFrerotte]

Anyone is nuts not to think Cooley is one of the best TE's in the league. I always get him as my starting fantasy TE every year since year 2 of his being a Skin. Everyone here playing fantasy this year should pick him up as well!!!! With JC bound to improve, along with our Wr corp, I look for things to open up more for Cooley and he will get more scores and yardage. Only TE's arguably better than Chris are Gates and Gonzalez, but our O is more potent than both SD and KC.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by saden1

It's not Cooley, it how he is used. He is definitely not easily replaceable.

He just said what I'm thinking.. Yes, some of you guys are right.. In general, TE players may be easy to replace, but not Cooley.. He is all-round player, hell, we even won some games because of him..