The Offensive Line: Should We Be Worried?

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Not sure what some of you guys saw in Heyer... I wasn't overly impressed. Yeah for an undrafted rookie I guess he did alright, but I think we definitely missed #60 big time out there last night.

Heyer is no Samuels, you got that right. But what Heyer did show is that we have a rookie that, with some more work, looks like he could turn in to a good back up left tackle and hopefully a starting left tackle for us down the road. Even though it is pre-season, you got to look at the good stuff from Heyer. He didn't get called for holding, he didn't jump off-sides, and he didn't get man handled. So if he could build off of that than I think we will have a good backup left guard. But like you said he is no #60....

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Heyer is no Samuels, you got that right. But what Heyer did show is that we have a rookie that, with some more work, looks like he could turn in to a good back up left tackle and hopefully a starting left tackle for us down the road. Even though it is pre-season, you got to look at the good stuff from Heyer. He didn't get called for holding, he didn't jump off-sides, and he didn't get man handled. So if he could build off of that than I think we will have a good backup left guard. But like you said he is no #60....

Ok, I see what you're saying about Heyer.

[Crazyhorse1]

I don't think we've solved the problem Doc's loss has created. Wade should be a back-up tackle. There's really no reason to think he's going to be an exceptional player at any position, but much less as a guard. We need an exceptional line, not an average one (we've got to run the ball as well as we did last year). Also, Jansen is probably done as an exceptional player.

We also need a WR. sorry to say, unless Lloyd really steps up. ARE doesn't look good enough or tall enough to me and I'm not a believer in Espy.

If I'm wrong about Jansen, Wade, ARE, Lloyd, and there are no major injuries I think the offense will be OK. If I'm not wrong, we're in for another year of worrying about putting points on the board.

One thing I'm certain about. If Cooley has an off year statistically because we need him to block rather than catches passes, we're going to be painful to watch. That will be a sign that the whole scheme isn't working.

[Cowell]

I want to see this thread back after week 3 of the preseason. By then we should know whether to be worried or not.

[FRPLG]

Yeah I am not saying Heyer will be a great tackle but he is at least going to be a guy who can play in the league. A good backup and a an average starter probably. I'll take that from a UDFA.

[MTK]

Yeah he does look promising and a nice find by the coaches.

[freddyg12]

Does anyone foresee a late preseason panic at Redskins Park a la the TJ Duckett trade?

Unlike that scenario, where we didn't really need another RB, we really need an o lineman.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Does anyone foresee a late preseason panic at Redskins Park a la the TJ Duckett trade?

Unlike that scenario, where we didn't really need another RB, we really need an o lineman.

I know Pete Kendall is very unhappy w/his contract so we might want to look at him. He is way better than anything we currently have at LG. Not sure what the asking price would be but I would take a look. I know he wants more $ than he is currently making.

I trust Buges but I gotta question him on this one. Why try and put a career RT at LG this late in the guy's career? Sorry but it makes no sense at all. Not only that but we are talking about an average to below avegare player to begin with. On top of that doesn't this guy have a history w/ injuries? I hope they have a back-up plan, which I thought was Whitiker. Guess I was wrong.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I know Pete Kendall is very unhappy w/his contract so we might want to look at him. He is way better than anything we currently have at LG. Not sure what the asking price would be but I would take a look. I know he wants more $ than he is currently making.

I trust Buges but I gotta question him on this one. Why try and put a career RT at LG this late in the guy's career? Sorry but it makes no sense at all. Not only that but we are talking about an average to below avegare player to begin with. On top of that doesn't this guy have a history w/ injuries? I hope they have a back-up plan, which I thought was Whitiker. Guess I was wrong.

I think if they were gonna sign somebody to any substantial contract then spring was the time to do that. Since they signed Dee Brown when Whit got cut, it says that they think the o-line depth wasn't as much a concern as the rb depth, or there weren't any decent o linemen out there cheap.
I agree that Wade is a tackle & I want to keep him there. I think we'll need him at Tackle before the season is over. I wonder if they promised him a chance to start if he'd re-sign?
If Samuels isn't back in a timely fashion, I expect to see us sign a tackle or guard off waivers. I also expect (hope) to see Fabini cut. Wish he could fill in at guard but it doesn't look like he'll fill in anywhere.

[theJBexperience]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I think if they were gonna sign somebody to any substantial contract then spring was the time to do that. Since they signed Dee Brown when Whit got cut, it says that they think the o-line depth wasn't as much a concern as the rb depth, or there weren't any decent o linemen out there cheap.
I agree that Wade is a tackle & I want to keep him there. I think we'll need him at Tackle before the season is over. I wonder if they promised him a chance to start if he'd re-sign?
If Samuels isn't back in a timely fashion, I expect to see us sign a tackle or guard off waivers. I also expect (hope) to see Fabini cut. Wish he could fill in at guard but it doesn't look like he'll fill in anywhere.

Isn't Alan Faneca still holding out in Pittsburgh, too?

[hooskins]

So I just watched the game again on TiVo and I wish I can change my vote to being worried. I guess Samuels is very important because pass protection wasnt too great. I wasnt too worried about Campbell, because when he had time he was sharp. I am, however, extremely worried about our run blocking, it looked like we couldnt run worth shit.

Also why keep Cooley in to block the entire game?

[Oakland Red]

I think that Mike Pucillo will take over and do a good job at guard this year. He is athletic, strong, and mobile, and with Joe Bugel to tutor him, I think he will really step up.

I think the Todd Wade experiment at guard isn't going to work; some players are meant to play only certain positions.

I like both the idea of making Jon Jansen a guard after this season, and also promoting Todd Wade to starter at RT this year if Jansen is having a lot of trouble.

[DGreene28]

Game On: Pete Kendall

We should be looking at Pete Kendall. He is in the middle of a bitter contract dispute with the Jets. After what he has said the Jets have to get rid of him. He looked good from what I saw in the Jets - Vikings scrimmage tonight and he is actually rated higher by scouts Inc the Dockery.

I would offer the Jets the 4th round pick they are looking for and solve this O-line problem right now so they have time to gel as a line. He'll probably come for about 2.5 Million a season but you get what you pay for.

[DGreene28]

Posted at 9:32 PM ET, 08/17/2007

Pete Kendall

Got a bunch of emails about him the last few weeks, and talked to some NFL people today (from organizations other than the Skins) who have been in contact witht he Jets. As I have suspected, they are not looking to move the valuable O Lineman now, despite his clashes with the organization.
He continues to practice with the first team and is playing well in camp and looks like a starter for them. It's awful tough to find quality linemen at this time of year. My best guess is maybe they try to find a half-decent guard off the scrap heat in a few weeks after the first round of cuts, but the trade market could be stale.



Looks like JLC beat me to this one... hopefully we can pull this off if Pucillo doesn't perform well at Guard Sat night.

[sandman89]

Hey,Have you guys seen the titans vs Pats? i think there D is better than what i thought cause that DL got Brady like 3 times and made him trow 2 int.