Vick Offered Minimum One Year Prison Sentence as Part of Plea Deal

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I am serious (and not blog savvy enough to know what trolling means). I understand that my opinion is a minority on this site so Id rather stay out of this issue as much as possible, but one year seems extremely excessive to me for a first time offender.

However I have not read the indictment so my knowelge is only limited to everything Ive read here and have heard on tv.

Go Skins!!!

I would ask you to think about it fully, not just the fact it is dogs. We are talking about how Vick has been doing this since he entered the NFL. It is one story if he just watched dogfights, or bet on them, but in this case he set up his own illegal business to make money off fighting dogs. If you just forget about the cruelty aspect, imagine all the years he has been running an illegal business(no permit, no taxes, etc). That alone is enough for the Feds to charge you.

Also he was directly linked to the execution of dogs in ways such as drowning, hanging, etc. Plus his operation had rape stands for female dogs to force them to breed. He was one of the main people who paid for this operation.

And finally, you also have to consider the society we live in. The laws reflect our way of life, and America is a dog lover country. Many families here have dogs, and they are very close to us, even family at times.

I think if you weigh all these facts you will see why Vick deserves to be jailed for atleast one year.

[DGreene28]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I am serious (and not blog savvy enough to know what trolling means). I understand that my opinion is a minority on this site so Id rather stay out of this issue as much as possible, but one year seems extremely excessive to me for a first time offender.

However I have not read the indictment so my knowelge is only limited to everything Ive read here and have heard on tv.

Go Skins!!!

All things considered 1 year seems like too short of a sentence. Do I want Vick to be jailed at all? No, I love watching the guy play he is one of the most exciting athletes I've ever seen. I've been a fan of his from way back at VT. I also met him a few times and he was a real cool cat, very laid back. However, the fact he could associate himself with such a disgusting practice is beyond me. I still believe "inncocent until proven guilty" no matter how bad it looks... I thought Sean Taylor was going to go away for a while too when he had his issues last year but I was pleasantly surprised and glad the prosecuter was such a buffoon.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Honestly a year is way to much. He has never been convicted of anything before. How is fighting some dogs (personal property) worth getting a YEAR is prison? Poor guy. No way he should accept.

How did I miss the 110 posts you had before this? One would think the lunacy would stand out.

I said it before. Pretend he wasn't maiming, killing, and abusing dogs. Pretend they were having fingerpainting contests. But understand that those fingerpainting contests were the center of a gambling ring where tens of thousands of dollars were gambled every night illegally with no taxes being declared on those winnings, in the presence of criminals, and that these fingerpainting contests were part of an interstate illegal fingerpainting ring.

I'm still trying to find a fingerpainting metaphor for "rape stand" and for all the illegal narcotics that were stored for the fighting dogs, but you get the picture.

[Dlyne8r]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

How did I miss the 110 posts you had before this? One would think the lunacy would stand out.

I said it before. Pretend he wasn't maiming, killing, and abusing dogs. Pretend they were having fingerpainting contests. But understand that those fingerpainting contests were the center of a gambling ring where tens of thousands of dollars were gambled every night illegally with no taxes being declared on those winnings, in the presence of criminals, and that these fingerpainting contests were part of an interstate illegal fingerpainting ring.

I'm still trying to find a fingerpainting metaphor for "rape stand" and for all the illegal narcotics that were stored for the fighting dogs, but you get the picture.

I couldn't have had a better response BrudLee...thank you...and my dog thanks you!

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

How did I miss the 110 posts you had before this? One would think the lunacy would stand out.

I said it before. Pretend he wasn't maiming, killing, and abusing dogs. Pretend they were having fingerpainting contests. But understand that those fingerpainting contests were the center of a gambling ring where tens of thousands of dollars were gambled every night illegally with no taxes being declared on those winnings, in the presence of criminals, and that these fingerpainting contests were part of an interstate illegal fingerpainting ring.

I'm still trying to find a fingerpainting metaphor for "rape stand" and for all the illegal narcotics that were stored for the fighting dogs, but you get the picture.

You shouldnt edit my post if you gonna quote me.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

You shouldnt edit my post if you gonna quote me.

I don't see where he edited your post

[BleedBurgundy]

He'd be stupid not to take this. With 1 year, at least there would be the possibility that he can get back in the league. If he gets the max (5 years) it's all over and he's the biggest punchline in the league's fight against poor conduct. What worries me is the possibility that he gets 1 year and only serves 3 months because the prisons are "overcrowded" ala Paris Hilton.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

He'd be stupid not to take this. With 1 year, at least there would be the possibility that he can get back in the league. If he gets the max (5 years) it's all over and he's the biggest punchline in the league's fight against poor conduct. What worries me is the possibility that he gets 1 year and only serves 3 months because the prisons are "overcrowded" ala Paris Hilton.

I think I heard somewhere that one reason he might accept the plea is that the prosecution is prepared to bring out new charges that could mean Vick would face up to 27 years in prison.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think I heard somewhere that one reason he might accept the plea is that the prosecution is prepared to bring out new charges that could mean Vick would face up to 27 years in prison.

This is getting ridicules. He seems to be guilty of something. So far it looks like he placed bets, and he bankrolled it. But to spend anymore than a year in jail for dogfighting seems a little crazy to me. For this type of crime a few months seems more logical.

[Carnage]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

He'd be stupid not to take this. With 1 year, at least there would be the possibility that he can get back in the league. If he gets the max (5 years) it's all over and he's the biggest punchline in the league's fight against poor conduct. What worries me is the possibility that he gets 1 year and only serves 3 months because the prisons are "overcrowded" ala Paris Hilton.

There is no such thing as Parole from federal prison. He will do every day of his sentence.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by Carnage

There is no such thing as Parole from federal prison. He will do every day of his sentence.

really? Never knew that... I can gladly say my experience with Fed Prison is limited to what I read and watch on tv. Still, he should take the deal.

[SKINStoWIN]

LOCK HIM UP. It is kinda funny when I look back and remember when his little brother Marcus was in all the trouble at Tech. Dope and under-age girls. He should have taken his own advice about staying out of trouble. as I said "LOCK HIM UP." And, any team that would touch him after all this is out of there minds.

[SKINStoWIN]

Lock Him Up!

[GhettoDogAllStars]

If I ran the league, I would probably institute a policy of restricting felons from participating in the the league. I just don't think it sounds right for felons to be playing in the NFL.

[irish]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

If I ran the league, I would probably institute a policy of restricting felons from participating in the the league. I just don't think it sounds right for felons to be playing in the NFL.

I agree 100%. The league does not need this type of player to be successful and popular. If anything they just hurt the league's image which could hurt popularity. The league does not need guys like Vick and the other trouble makers. They could go away tomorrow and the league would not miss a beat.