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Old 09-23-2007, 08:42 PM   #1
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Re: Great Playcalling, Joe

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If you watched this game, this is not Al Saunders offense. The defense played incredible despite the pathetic offensive playcalling. You can not ask the defense to stop the Giants offense the whole second half if the offense puts up 14 second half yards. Joe Gibbs should just stop fucking up with the offense. He needs to just let Al Saunders run this offense the way he sees fit. We are the Herman Edwards' Chiefs team of the NFC. This is pathetic.
Some folks on here are just averse to criticizing Gibbs. Joe v2.0 sucks at offensive play calling.

Just 1 game though - would've been cool to head in to the bye 3-0, but 2-1 ain't that bad. Gotta win against the Lions though.
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:40 PM   #2
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Re: Great Playcalling, Joe

It didn't help that the defense was on the field the whole second half, and the play calling in the redzone was absolutely horrible.
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:40 PM   #3
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I knew we were in trouble after the first series in the second half. Skins (coaches and players) approached second half as if game was already over. Now I have to hear from my Giants fan wife until we play them again...this is a bad day!
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:41 PM   #4
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I knew we were in trouble after the first series in the second half. Skins (coaches and players) approached second half as if game was already over. Now I have to hear from my Giants fan wife until we play them again...this is a bad day!
Divorce her!
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:41 PM   #5
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Re: Great Playcalling, Joe

I dunno, I saw the same offense that I've seen the past few weeks. Only difference is today we didn't convert on 3rd downs enough.
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:53 PM   #6
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I dunno, I saw the same offense that I've seen the past few weeks. Only difference is today we didn't convert on 3rd downs enough.
I didnt. Play calling was much more conservative adn they only opened it up in the last drive. It was just run run run run swing pass, run run run, dump off deep bomb.

That kinda stuff isn't going to fly. It seemed like Gibbs was calling the shots this time until the end. It became almost comical how predictable the playcalling was. My friends and I were calling all the plays during the 2nd half before they happened.
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:41 PM   #7
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Re: Great Playcalling, Joe

Good NFL Teams dont go up 17-3 at the half and lose....Good Teams dont do that, so by that logic....



Were not a good team, bottom line. That was fucking pathetic. ABSOLUTLEY pathetic. That playcalling was atrocious, I dont care what the Giants did, wheather they rallied or not, we were up SEVENTEEN TO FREAKING THREE.....Our offensive playcalling was ATROCIOUS...I could take the 11 people in my house and gain fourteen yards on offense against that pathetic Giatns defense
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:51 PM   #8
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Were not a good team, bottom line. That was fucking pathetic. ABSOLUTLEY pathetic. That playcalling was atrocious, I dont care what the Giants did, wheather they rallied or not, we were up SEVENTEEN TO FREAKING THREE.....Our offensive playcalling was ATROCIOUS...I could take the 11 people in my house and gain fourteen yards on offense against that pathetic Giatns defense
So?

The Giants are a great offensive football team who badly, badly outplayed us in the second half. Their defense was going to figure it out eventually, and I've been around the game long enough to know that if you help them out by making critical offensive mistakes, you are doing half the work for them.

Look, no reason to overreact. It's one loss, I don't think that at the beginning of the season that too many people had us better than 2-1 anyway.

Should we have lost that game? Well, because of the way we played in the second half, I'd say yes, we were outplayed (overall).

I still give us a good chance in the Meadowlands this December though.
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:42 PM   #9
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LOL I love the board after a loss.

Welcome to over reaction city.
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:49 PM   #10
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LOL I love the board after a loss.

Welcome to over reaction city.
I gotta disagree that I'm overreacting. I don't blame the D for folding because they were on the field almost the entire second half. I blame whoever was calling plays for the offensive and defensive struggles. And everyone's favorite "power back"/"Joe Gibbs style runner" can't break a tackle that everyone else in the NFL breaks and doesn't even attempt to score.

Finally, I stand by my statement that they looked like Norv was coaching them today because that's the Skins team that I grew up watching: Get the lead, Put it on the D, watch the D give it back and then try to win it late.
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I gotta disagree that I'm overreacting. I don't blame the D for folding because they were on the field almost the entire second half. I blame whoever was calling plays for the offensive and defensive struggles. And everyone's favorite "power back"/"Joe Gibbs style runner" can't break a tackle that everyone else in the NFL breaks and doesn't even attempt to score.

Finally, I stand by my statement that they looked like Norv was coaching them today because that's the Skins team that I grew up watching: Get the lead, Put it on the D, watch the D give it back and then try to win it late.

Agreed....Wish I could add to that, but its 100% on the ball...that was atrocious play calling in the second half....14 yards!?!?!?

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Re: Great Playcalling, Joe

The clock management at the end of the game was predictably pathetic, but thats about the 8th most important reason as to why we lost.

In the second half, the defense got the ball thrown all over it. If Eli wanted a first down, he got it. Derrick Ward is a pretty good player back there.

Offensively, we made more critical mistakes in the second half than good plays. Some weird things happened like Portis uncharacteristically grabbing at a handoff. Campbell's accuracy was troubling to say the least in the second half, and the offensive line struggled.

I don't think the playcalling was bad, but it was unremarkable. Unremarkable playcalling and poor excution is always a disaster.
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:46 PM   #13
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I hate to say this but if this was other coaching staffs the game would have been over. No reason why we were not passing more against the 31st rank pass defense.
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:47 PM   #14
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2-1 is the only bright spot here. Although the way the entire team played today we could very well be looking at another 5-6 win season. I blame this loss more on the defense than the offense. We're up 17-3, it's on the defense to shut them down. Instead, we hand them 21 friggin points, and they shut our offense down. Granted, the playcalling was very conservative, and teams don't win by that, so i'm putting the blame on the entire team for this one.
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:48 PM   #15
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2-1 is the only bright spot here. Although the way the entire team played today we could very well be looking at another 5-6 win season. I blame this loss more on the defense than the offense. We're up 17-3, it's on the defense to shut them down. Instead, we hand them 21 friggin points, and they shut our offense down. Granted, the playcalling was very conservative, and teams don't win by that, so i'm putting the blame on the entire team for this one.
Tough for me to blame the defense when the offense kept going 3 and out and giving them no rest.
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