First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

[SC Skins Fan]

Tell me if I'm crazy, but if Betts did not trip over Sellers on that very last play there was a pretty big hole there and it was basically a race to the pylon and I think Betts wins. Penetration killed that play, bottom line (I once had a high school coach who would say, "playing defense is like sex, once you get penetration its over," kind of a weird guy really, but that line has stayed with me). Betts looked really quick and desive in his cut on that run on 3rd down and the LB just filled the hole too quickly. On the run on 4th down I he scores if he doesn't trip over Sellers. I think the second and third guessing is fun and all, but the Skins were a lot closer to putting the ball in the end zone on that last play than many are giving them credit for. Check it out again and tell me that I'm nuts, but I think those were good calls on the goal line, though they (and this is Jason's fault, but he is young and will learn from it) rushed that last play. The biggest failure in the second half was the defense collapsing (and if you will remember, Burress really saved them in the first half with all his drops, so the Giants were hitting plays pretty much all day, Shockey and Burress just actually caught the ball in the 2nd half).

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

I think the second and third guessing is fun and all, but the Skins were a lot closer to putting the ball in the end zone on that last play than many are giving them credit for.

Yep, about as close as one yard.

I still say Portis gets in...Sellers even.

[birdz4gibbs]

set up a formation to run a naked bootleg to the other side from where the giants overloaded the left side. the right side was wide open....touchdown but it didn,t happen all that time that they had and they panicked again ,oh well..i was screaming to run a naked bootleg from the start.. or have a tight end sneak out from the formation and hit him in the endzone....

[bertoskins2]

Sellers Running With Defensive Lineman As His Lead Blocker
2 Times

[bigSkinsfan61]

1st: portis middle
2nd: sneak
3rd: bootleg
4th: portis up the gut

[Takeuon]

Originally Posted by bigSkinsfan61

1st: portis middle
2nd: sneak
3rd: bootleg
4th: portis up the gut

Naked bootleg! Yes...Jason Campbell is fast enough for this to work. Maybe we'll see this play in the future. With-in the 5yd line and executed properly, very hard to stop.

[LaRon + Sean = Hell 4 U]

Well in all honesty if Betts got in I believe everybody would be saying it was a good call but on the other hand think Jason rushed the last play & a QB sneak would have been better Campbell is 6'4 or 6'5 230 he could have streched for that yard. Bottom line we lost and we hope our team learned from that tough lose.

[MTK]

Goal line situations aren't the time to get tricky, you have to be able to line up and blow people off the ball to get that one yard. We couldn't punch it in down there so we didn't deserve to win.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Goal line situations aren't the time to get tricky, you have to be able to line up and blow people off the ball to get that one yard. We couldn't punch it in down there so we didn't deserve to win.

Shows what you know. Clearly, what this team is lacking is a statue of liberty, double reverse, hook 'n ladder, option pass from the one. Damn that conservative run the ball approach!

No one ever wins with a predictable playcall. You never go to your strength, always go for the surprise.

<<He's going to go all the way, unless Blackwood can catch him...>>

I would have done exactly what the Redskins did except with different players. Portis for Betts mainly. And the route that Sellers ran, I'd have run a route where he's already in the endzone when the ball is thrown. Not where he has to catch it and run in

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Shows what you know. Clearly, what this team is lacking is a statue of liberty, double reverse, hook 'n ladder, option pass from the one. Damn that conservative run the ball approach!

No one ever wins with a predictable playcall. You never go to your strength, always go for the surprise.

<<He's going to go all the way, unless Blackwood can catch him...>>

I would have done exactly what the Redskins did except with different players. Portis for Betts mainly. And the route that Sellers ran, I'd have run a route where he's already in the endzone when the ball is thrown. Not where he has to catch it and run in

We are making this more complicated than it needs to be.

1st down. Instead of spiking the ball line up in shotgun and either throw it in the end zone for a td or it's incomplete. That way if we don't make it in on 1st down we can re group on 2nd down and get CP in the game. Or bring in Lloyd on 2nd down since he can jump so high. Throw him a lob pass or a slant. Either way you don't spike it with a minute left.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Shows what you know. Clearly, what this team is lacking is a statue of liberty, double reverse, hook 'n ladder, option pass from the one. Damn that conservative run the ball approach!

No one ever wins with a predictable playcall. You never go to your strength, always go for the surprise.

<<He's going to go all the way, unless Blackwood can catch him...>>

I would have done exactly what the Redskins did except with different players. Portis for Betts mainly. And the route that Sellers ran, I'd have run a route where he's already in the endzone when the ball is thrown. Not where he has to catch it and run in

Even after those plays failed you would still run them? And you would substitute a smaller back in Portis for Betts to run over people? and then you would run a slant off tackle with a stacked D-line waiting for it? Nice!!!!!!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by offiss

Even after those plays failed you would still run them? And you would substitute a smaller back in Portis for Betts to run over people? and then you would run a slant off tackle with a stacked D-line waiting for it? Nice!!!!!!

I don't think that just because a play doesn't work once you never go back to it again. I also don't believe that Betts 2 pound advantage over Portis is worth sitting CP on the bench for.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by offiss

Even after those plays failed you would still run them? And you would substitute a smaller back in Portis for Betts to run over people? and then you would run a slant off tackle with a stacked D-line waiting for it? Nice!!!!!!

Offiss, funny how you haven't been around to praise Gibbs et al after the victories. Would you be happy with anything less than the return of Spurrier and Ramsey?

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Offiss, funny how you haven't been around to praise Gibbs et al after the victories. Would you be happy with anything less than the return of Spurrier and Ramsey?

It's even funnier how you selectively don't pay attention. And even funnier that you would anoint Gibbs after 2 games against teams that are not that good who were in position to tie, or beat us in the final 2 minutes, or in OT, this last game against the Giants is exactly why I didn't, or wont jump on that bandwagon until it actually arrives, I wanted to make sure a different Gibbs was in the house now that we have a real QB, but unfortunately it's the same old story we have been watching since his return, he treats the football like it was made of plutonium, we lost to the worst of the 3 teams we have played blowing a 14 point lead at home in the second half, what a complete an utter joke. But your more than welcome to pick up the old pom poms and perform a few routines for gibbs by all means.

Make no mistake about it, the Giants didn't beat us, Gibbs rolled out the red carpet and handed that victory to them, his charity work never stops.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Goal line situations aren't the time to get tricky, you have to be able to line up and blow people off the ball to get that one yard. We couldn't punch it in down there so we didn't deserve to win.

Agreed. You have to know deep down in your gut what type of team you are.

Last I checked, we're a run the ball, pound it 35 or 40 times a game type of team. We have guys like big Mike Sellers just waiting to put a crater in somebody's chest with his helmet.

I can live with pounding it from the 1 and not making it. We went with our bread and butter. The Giants just got off the ball, what can you do.

Seems like they could have been anticipating the snap count a little. But as far as the playcall, I can't fault that move.