What is wrong with Santana Moss? (merged)

mooby · 10-14-2007, 04:55 PM

We're not gonna cut him, we'd at least trade him and get something for him lol. Either way that's not happening so w/e.

The fact of the matter is something is wrong with him. The drops are a mental aspect of the game, which suggests that he's not "on" mentally as far as I'm concerned. He's not playing like old, and that means that the injuries are probably still lingering. What I would do is just let him sit next week, let him get back into the right frame of mind, and when he thinks he can contribute and stop making negative plays it will be time to let him back on the field. If he continues playing like this he's only gonna hurt us some more, and we can't have that.

RJ2kWJ · 10-14-2007, 04:59 PM

Oh he definitely isn't getting cut... But he definitely cost us this game. BIG TIME. He didn't seem like he even gave a crap about it either.

Longtimefan · 10-14-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ2kWJ

Oh he definitely isn't getting cut... But he definitely cost us this game. BIG TIME. He didn't seem like he even gave a crap about it either.

Moss was on post game (Comcast) with B. Mitch and Ray Brown- seemed genuinely contrite about the game he had today. I was actually suprised that he even played today because of that groin injury that's been troubling him the last few weeks. It may have been better had he not played at all. His injury problems started back in the spring during OTA's (no contact) and I mentioned then that I was concerned about his seemingly history of injury problems. Groin injuries can be lasting if you're not careful, I just don't think he's completely healthy, and his play today was indicative of that fact.

Crazyhorse1 · 10-14-2007, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

We're not gonna cut him, we'd at least trade him and get something for him lol. Either way that's not happening so w/e.

The fact of the matter is something is wrong with him. The drops are a mental aspect of the game, which suggests that he's not "on" mentally as far as I'm concerned. He's not playing like old, and that means that the injuries are probably still lingering. What I would do is just let him sit next week, let him get back into the right frame of mind, and when he thinks he can contribute and stop making negative plays it will be time to let him back on the field. If he continues playing like this he's only gonna hurt us some more, and we can't have that.

Brain damage, nerve damage, the yips? Seems to me something is wrong with him, and I'm not saying this to be critical. I think he needs a full physical (including neural) check up. He's not the same guy. There are many reasons his hands may be slow to react-- many are serious.
I hope I'm totally off the wall and wrong but I think this has been coming on for a while.

celts32 · 10-14-2007, 04:59 PM

He pretty much singlehandedly lost this game. And it's not easy to lose the game from the WR position. He was the perfect storm today. Everthing he could do wrong he did do wrong.

BleedBurgundy · 10-14-2007, 04:59 PM

Maybe it's missing so much practice time with injuries? I know we have various that are not practicing so they can be fresh for Sunday, but then they have mental lapses.

jsarno · 10-14-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Maybe it's missing so much practice time with injuries? I know we have various that are not practicing so they can be fresh for Sunday, but then they have mental lapses.

What? Stealing my comments now??? LOL

Maybe that's why he's doing so poorly, he's missed a TON of practices this season with his injuries.

scowan · 10-14-2007, 05:12 PM

I don't know if it was because of a wet field, wet ball, or what, but everyone was sliping and dropping balls like all of Lambeau was covered in Vaseline! Moss had a bad game, but everyone played bad except for Campbell. Campbell's Int was Moss's fault and 6 or 7 dropped passes were the cause of drives not being continued. We had this game and let it get away. Just sad, because the Packers did not beat us, we beat ourselves.

GTripp0012 · 10-14-2007, 05:24 PM

There was a lot wrong with the offense today. Moss was the biggest problem, but the blocking is pretty pathetic. Campbell's accuracy is also really irritating. We're pathetic on third and short.

wilsowilso · 10-14-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We're pathetic on third and short.

Amen. It's hard to watch. The oline is a mess. I think that is the biggest factor. Qb inexperience and bad playcalling are tied for second.

GTripp0012 · 10-14-2007, 05:36 PM

I'm serious, the only way this team ever converts a third down is to be in like third and ten, and have Campbell hit Randle El or Cooley.

We can blame plenty of people. The playcalling hasn't been especially helpful. Campbell can't hit open guys. The line can't open up holes. It's bad.

crawfish · 10-14-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm serious, the only way this team ever converts a third down is to be in like third and ten, and have Campbell hit Randle El or Cooley.

We can blame plenty of people. The playcalling hasn't been especially helpful. Campbell can't hit open guys. The line can't open up holes. It's bad.

Your comments make no sense. JC had 5-6 dropped on him. He hit Moss right on the money on the deep sideline pass and Santana dropped it. JC is the least of our worries.

70Chip · 10-14-2007, 07:21 PM

Meh. He's having a bad run. He'll come out of it. They need to get him involved in some easy stuff early so his head is in the game.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace · 10-14-2007, 05:38 PM

I thought Campbell played a pretty good game today...and where was the playcalling lacking?

GTripp0012 · 10-14-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

I thought Campbell played a pretty good game today...and where was the playcalling lacking?

3rd and short situations. Just run the ball between the tackles. OR, go playaction and try for the big play.

Don't try to throw quick outs in the rain or run tosses. Seriously, wtf?

10-14-2007, 04:55 PM	#1
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,596	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? We're not gonna cut him, we'd at least trade him and get something for him lol. Either way that's not happening so w/e. The fact of the matter is something is wrong with him. The drops are a mental aspect of the game, which suggests that he's not "on" mentally as far as I'm concerned. He's not playing like old, and that means that the injuries are probably still lingering. What I would do is just let him sit next week, let him get back into the right frame of mind, and when he thinks he can contribute and stop making negative plays it will be time to let him back on the field. If he continues playing like this he's only gonna hurt us some more, and we can't have that. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

10-14-2007, 04:59 PM	#2
RJ2kWJ Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 41 Posts: 42	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? Oh he definitely isn't getting cut... But he definitely cost us this game. BIG TIME. He didn't seem like he even gave a crap about it either.

10-14-2007, 04:59 PM	#5
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 54 Posts: 2,665	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? He pretty much singlehandedly lost this game. And it's not easy to lose the game from the WR position. He was the perfect storm today. Everthing he could do wrong he did do wrong. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

10-14-2007, 04:59 PM	#6
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? Maybe it's missing so much practice time with injuries? I know we have various that are not practicing so they can be fresh for Sunday, but then they have mental lapses. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

10-14-2007, 05:12 PM	#8
scowan The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: KY Age: 57 Posts: 1,559	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? I don't know if it was because of a wet field, wet ball, or what, but everyone was sliping and dropping balls like all of Lambeau was covered in Vaseline! Moss had a bad game, but everyone played bad except for Campbell. Campbell's Int was Moss's fault and 6 or 7 dropped passes were the cause of drives not being continued. We had this game and let it get away. Just sad, because the Packers did not beat us, we beat ourselves.

10-14-2007, 05:24 PM	#9
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? There was a lot wrong with the offense today. Moss was the biggest problem, but the blocking is pretty pathetic. Campbell's accuracy is also really irritating. We're pathetic on third and short. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

10-14-2007, 05:36 PM	#11
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? I'm serious, the only way this team ever converts a third down is to be in like third and ten, and have Campbell hit Randle El or Cooley. We can blame plenty of people. The playcalling hasn't been especially helpful. Campbell can't hit open guys. The line can't open up holes. It's bad. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

10-14-2007, 07:21 PM	#13
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 55 Posts: 3,048	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? Meh. He's having a bad run. He'll come out of it. They need to get him involved in some easy stuff early so his head is in the game. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

10-14-2007, 05:38 PM	#14
AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Age: 41 Posts: 896	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? I thought Campbell played a pretty good game today...and where was the playcalling lacking?

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