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Old 10-23-2007, 02:45 AM   #1
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Wilbon had an interesting take in his chat this week:The Chat House - washingtonpost.com

He said that the offense lacks a truly great player that it can rally around - an icon who can inspire and lead them. Campbell, Portis, even Samuels, these guys are really good, but there's no one who is truly elite; and there's no one who's firey or galvanizing. I think Chicago showed last year that with good defense you can do well with a ho-hum offense, but maybe you can't ever really be better than sufficient.
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:29 AM   #2
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Wilbon had an interesting take in his chat this week:The Chat House - washingtonpost.com

He said that the offense lacks a truly great player that it can rally around - an icon who can inspire and lead them. Campbell, Portis, even Samuels, these guys are really good, but there's no one who is truly elite; and there's no one who's firey or galvanizing. I think Chicago showed last year that with good defense you can do well with a ho-hum offense, but maybe you can't ever really be better than sufficient.
I disagree w/Wilbon's statement about Portis - he is charismatic & has been a team leader since he got here. I do agree w/him in that something is off or lacking. The O doesn't seem to have any personality.

What may be the problem is that Portis has been spoiled & favored by the coach for too long and now he's starting to really screw up w/fumbles. I think he even fumbled but recovered against AZ. A friend of mine made a good point, the fumbles may be due to lack of practice & preseason action.

Remember the 05 run, Portis became a team leader & carried the load. Now that things are tougher & the holes are narrower, I wonder how it's affecting his attitude and how his teamates react to him.

I know Betts hasn't done much, but they should give him more of a chance to establish a rythm.
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:00 PM   #3
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There are two school's of thought when it comes to game-planning against teams like Arizona and New England: (1) score as many damn points as you can since they will; and (2) keep the ball out of the opposing offense's hands by running the ball, churning out yards in bits and pieces, and running out the clock. The coaching staff chose the latter game-plan for Arizona and, IMO, if they are smart they will do so against New England.

Now, the only complaint that I have about Arizona is that they took the right approach a little too far. Jason Campbell had just 7 passing attempts in the second half of the game. Jason has done enough to demonstrate that he should have gotten to pass a few more times.

So, against New England, on offense we should be trying to churn out the clock by running the ball, but need to at least attempt a few deep passes to open running lanes for the backs. On defense, I'm not so sure the approach that we have been using lately (i.e., play the deep ball with the back seven and rush the front four) will work. If you give Tom Brady time, he's going to pick your defense apart - even if you're dropping eight guys. If you get pressure on Brady, which is no easy feat, he is still a very good QB, but not "the" Tom Brady. So, on defense, I'd like to see us bring more heat. But, no matter what defense we employ, we better be focused on the pass.
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:04 PM   #4
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There are two school's of thought when it comes to game-planning against teams like Arizona and New England: (1) score as many damn points as you can since they will; and (2) keep the ball out of the opposing offense's hands by running the ball, churning out yards in bits and pieces, and running out the clock. The coaching staff chose the latter game-plan for Arizona and, IMO, if they are smart they will do so against New England.

Now, the only complaint that I have about Arizona is that they took the right approach a little too far. Jason Campbell had just 7 passing attempts in the second half of the game. Jason has done enough to demonstrate that he should have gotten to pass a few more times.

So, against New England, on offense we should be trying to churn out the clock by running the ball, but need to at least attempt a few deep passes to open running lanes for the backs. On defense, I'm not so sure the approach that we have been using lately (i.e., play the deep ball with the back seven and rush the front four) will work. If you give Tom Brady time, he's going to pick your defense apart - even if you're dropping eight guys. If you get pressure on Brady, which is no easy feat, he is still a very good QB, but not "the" Tom Brady. So, on defense, I'd like to see us bring more heat. But, no matter what defense we employ, we better be focused on the pass.
I think we need to get pressure with our front 4 and not blitz. Maybe blitz a bit more but not much. Why give Brady one on one deep? I respect your point about him picking us apart but let them beat us with 15 plays for a score not 1 or 2.........like Sean Taylor deep with Moss, he may get beat once but he'll pick one or two also. Look for him to make a huge play. He's got 5 picks in 6 games and this one will be a major chance for more.
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:08 PM   #5
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I think we need to get pressure with our front 4 and not blitz. Maybe blitz a bit more but not much. Why give Brady one on one deep? I respect your point about him picking us apart but let them beat us with 15 plays for a score not 1 or 2.........like Sean Taylor deep with Moss, he may get beat once but he'll pick one or two also. Look for him to make a huge play. He's got 5 picks in 6 games and this one will be a major chance for more.
I love Sean Taylor's playmaking abilities and he can compete with any offensive player in the league. But, I'm not sure I want him competing for jump balls with Randy Moss on a consistent basis. He batted down one pass to Moss when Moss was with Minny (which we all have seen in highlight vids), but I don't want to see Sean Taylor/Carlos Rogers try to battle Moss for jump balls on a regular basis.

I think it's definitely an arguable point about whether to blitz or play the pass, but I'm afraid of what Brady can do to us if we don't hit him in the mouth.
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:43 PM   #6
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If anyone is the problem for the O its Gibbs. He wont let AS do what he wants and the O is suffering as a result. I think if Joe just let AS do his thing the O problems would get better.

That said I also think if it came down to keeping AS or Williams, I would take Saunders if for no other reason than to keep a consistent offensive scheme in place for JC to develop under.
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