Campbell's development curve

[rk3025]

If you listen to John Riggins about how they ran the ball and should be now
We are now in a 60% passing era that requires a top 20 qb to be successful

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Good post.

For some time, I didn't buy into the Gibbs holding Saunders back theory. However, as time progresses, it seems more apparent that is the case.

I agree with you. We lack offensive identity, and we are not creative. However, it's hard to run the play action when you don't have much running game to speak of.

One thing about New England's success with the screen is our defensive scheme. We are giving up all the underneath stuff to everyone, every game. I'm not sure if we did the same thing that it would have as much success against teams with a defensive strategy different than ours.

I think you are right about this: what we are seeing is not an Al Saunders offense. I hope Joe will give more control to Saunders as the season progresses.

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

JC doing fine. Its the coaching staff killing him. Heaven forbid we throw the ball down the field

[djnemo65]

Well I think the level to which our offensive supporting cast has been overrated is quickly becoming clear. Springs had a great point last year talking about the defense, but it applies to the offense as well. He said if you want to know how good you really are, don't look at the names or the contracts, look at the best defense in the league and ask yourself who from your team would start for them.

So if the Pats are the best offense, who do we have who would start for them. Randy Thomas? Maybe? Portis? Maybe maybe not. That's about it.

We haven't had a franchise quarterback in 30 something years so I hope we all give the FO time to construct a team built around Campbell and his strengths before we go writing him off.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Well I think the level to which our offensive supporting cast has been overrated is quickly becoming clear. Springs had a great point last year talking about the defense, but it applies to the offense as well. He said if you want to know how good you really are, don't like at the names or the contracts, look at the best defense in the league and ask yourself who from your team would start for them.

So if the Pats are the best offense, who do we have who would start for them. Randy Thomas? Maybe? Portis? Maybe maybe not. That's about it.

We haven't had a franchise quarterback in 30 something years so I hope we all give the FO time to construct a team built around Campbell and his strengths before we go writing him off.

Man that's a good analogy. We probably don't have one guy on our whole team that would start for NE. Portis maybe. That's a big maybe.

[GTripp0012]

Samuels>Todd Light

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Samuels>Todd Light

Think so? Samuels is good but Light is one of the most underrated players in the league.

If they had a chance to trade straight up I bet they wouldn't, just thinking about it hypothetically.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Samuels>Todd Light

I think so. I also agree that Thomas, Cooley and Portis would likely start for the Pats.

[skinsguy]

Speaking of Campbell's development, I wonder if Gibbs and Saunders have thought about allowing Jason and the offense to run more of the no huddle offense. Jason seems to do a pretty good job when the Redskins are in the no huddle. In fact, it almost seems like it helps him to get into a rhythm. Now, I realize the Pats were in a prevent defense, but starting off a game in the no huddle could be the spark our offense and Campbell needs to get things going. This could only help open things up for our running attack as well.

[redsk1]

I like JC and think he is improved over last year, but I'm really not sold on him yet. I'm not sure if its the playcalling or whatever but he's gotta show some ability to win games at some point. At this point i don't think we can be so sure that he's our QB for the next 5 yrs+. Don't get me wrong, i think he's got great potential but alot of backup qb's have potential. Patrick Ramsey had great potential. We've seen a couple pretty good games from him but nothing that defines what potential he has. 3 TD games...300yard games? Alot of people want to make him out to be alot better than what he is right now. I'm optimistic but JC's got to continue to get better.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Alot of people want to make him out to be alot better than what he is right now. I'm optimistic but JC's got to continue to get better.

What's to say that he won't get better? Giants fans have been bitching about Eli for two seasons, but now he's finally looking like a legit NFL quarterback.

Campbell struggles against the best team in football, and now he's not showing people enough? I'm sure everyone would love to see him blow up this week, but it'll be a little tough when there is no running game to speak of, the offensive line is decimated, and receivers drop 40 yard passes. And I personally think he's shown enough to prove he can be successful in the NFL. Mechanics can be coached. Poise and intelligence can't be taught, and Campbell has a lot of both.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

the Skins now rank 28th in total offense. 25th in yards per rush (3.5) and 25th in passing yards per game. They are 28th in first downs and 22nd in points per game (18). The offense has 13 touchdowns through 7 games.

A lot of that is the opponents that Washington faced. Very few were crappy defenses, and most are fairly established squads.

But do not read too much into that after the NE game, that one game really put a scar on the Redskins rankings on both sides of the ball.

On defense, prior to the New England game, Washington was ranked 5th in total defense in the NFL and the best defense in the NFC east. They were also ranked #1 in the NFL in scoring defense.

After the New England game, the Washington defense is now ranked 12th in the NFL in total defense, ranked 15th in scoring defense and is LAST in the NFC East.

Everyone knows this team is better than those rankings

[SuperFan99]

The Skins have Randle El, Moss, Portis, Cooley . . . That's a lot of talent. There's no reason Campbell should be handcuffed by Gibbs. Let the youn man play!

[spurriercoles9]

Its the guys first year running the offense if Troy Aikman was playing with these receivers and this line his first year he would be horrible too.The guy will be ok.At least he does not get rattled and he is tough and coachable .Get rid of B.lloyd!!!!!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by spurriercoles9

Its the guys first year running the offense if Troy Aikman was playing with these receivers and this line his first year he would be horrible too.The guy will be ok.At least he does not get rattled and he is tough and coachable .Get rid of B.lloyd!!!!!

He looked rattled against the Pats but I will add that was the first time I have really seen him rattled. How many time do we have to say Lloyd is not going anywhere this year because of the cap hit we would take.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

How many of you guys were screaming at the TV when the skins tried 5 or 6 screen plays to Widereicevers in the first half of the game on sunday? I know me and my fellow skins fans I was watching the game with were. Also on the Oline problems they are all centered around not having Jansen and Thomas. The other 3 guys Samuels, Kendall, and Rabach are getting the job done. The 3 fumbles on Sunday were all on Wade. He couldn't block Vrabel. Lord help us if the cowbays line up Ware on Wades side.