Redskins draft day trade for veteran WR

[dmek25]

some people around here make me laugh. countless posts on how the skins need a receiver. now, MAYBE a chance to pick up a proven, pro bowl type player, and people want to go cheap. remember, you pay cheap, you get cheap. anyone know how old Johnson is? if the trade is our first rounder, and a back up running back( Betts) i do it in a New York second

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by dmek25

some people around here make me laugh. countless posts on how the skins need a receiver. now, MAYBE a chance to pick up a proven, pro bowl type player, and people want to go cheap. remember, you pay cheap, you get cheap. anyone know how old Johnson is? if the trade is our first rounder, and a back up running back( Betts) i do it in a New York second

Chad is 30. Chad Johnson

I wouldn't mind attaining him for a 1st round pick because we all know what he can do, and he is not showing signs of age or regression. I do not think that there is anonther player, much less a WR that we can pick up in the first round (at 21) that can impact the game the way that Chad possibly could over the next 5 years.

With that said. Chad comes to us for our 1st and 3rd. We give them Betts and swap 2nd round picks.

Or we can just trade our 1st and Betts for Chad like dmek25 said.

[skinsfan242]

I'd do the deal for the 21st for Johnson and we switch 2nd rounders. We get the 40th they get the 52nd. No more than that.

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by skinsfan242

I'd do the deal for the 21st for Johnson and we switch 2nd rounders. We get the 40th they get the 52nd. No more than that.

NO FIRST ROUND SWAP!

PERIOD!

[Dirtbag59]

Part of me would love to see CJ traded to the Raiders. For me that would be the ultimate irony.

[Redskin Warrior]

Yea Chad is 30 so what i hear everyone speaking about he is aging, he is old but I think he is in his prime. Marvin Harrison play great pro bowl caliber the last 5 years he is about to be 36. We could get the same from CJ 5 to 6 years

[SBXVII]

I am not advocating trading more then we have to...I simply said I would not trade more then a 1st this yr and something lower next. Some one made it sound like it was going to be a 1st this yr and a 1st next yr. I would say no go.

Some people on here seem to think CJ is the anti christ. He is evil or something. I think he is far better then T.O. was when he had his problems and look how he turned out. He has towed the line while at Dallas. Look at Moss who had his problems at Minni. and Oakland. Since being with NE he has towed the line. I think CJ likes to have fun and enjoy the game. No different then Portis was coming out of Denver with his WWF belt and all his antics with the media(dressing up).

Some one mentioned the CAP hit Cincy would take. Yea your right. but if I'm not mistaken he could seriously help Cincy out if he truely wants out by paying some of the money back. I do believe one of our very own (Arrington) did this very same thing in order to get out of his contract. So....it can be done and don't think Snyder would not front the money for CJ to pay back to Cincy in order to leave.

I like Betts alot also. but...I'm simply saying this is a trade that could (not will) occurr. It would not hurt us either. We have other just as talented RB's that could fill Bett's roll. Run, Run, fumble. You can also suppliment fumble with dropped pass. The only thing I have ever liked about Betts is that fact he is not afraid to run up the middle and take a hit. Other then that I'll say what I have always said. Bett's is not the leading RB because he has a tendency to leave the ball on the grass. Occassionally. Now the question is can Rocky fill in Bett's roll or would we have to draft someone? Rumor has it the Skins have looked at a FB/RB.

Trust me I think we have other needs as well I'm interested in a DE/DT but I'm betting if they don't pick that it will be a Safety (just a feeling). but I'm also not going to say CJ would not help us out. I believe he would help us more then hurt us. He's tall so jump balls in the end zone might be taken care of with him. He's fast creates another problem for defenses. He can seperate from DB's on his routes. and last but not least no one can argue his numbers. I don't know if he would put up those numbers with us but clearly if we had to throw we would not have a problem doing so. Especially with speedy Moss, shifty El, Cooley, and Portis all to throw to. Someone has to be able to get open. They certainly could not double Moss anymore and would more then likely double CJ. Leaving Moss to tear up the second or third string DB. Teams would be forced to play more nickle probubly and Portis or perhaps Sellers would have a ball.

[BleedBurgundy]

Just say no to headcases. What makes anyone think that this guy can put the team before himself? build through the draft! I could see trading for a wideout for "instant impact" vs the learning curve that rookies face but we're not going to be a super bowl team this year anyway. Draft a wr and let 'em learn. They're going to have time to develop.

[Skinny Tee]

Lets keep in mind that it's Chad Johnson who wants to leave his team and it's the Bengals who have to move him if they want to oblige him.

That means compensation should be based on those factors. Anyone who is talking of two first round picks, or a first and third is extremely overestimating CJ's trade value.

Remember, if we wanted to acquire Chad for high draft picks we would have done it already. It's the Bengals problem, and Chad's wish to leave that gives us leverage if they decide to move him.

[dmek25]

i think it all boils down to the bengals willingness to take the monsterous cap hit

[Rajmahal33]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i think it all boils down to the bengals willingness to take the monsterous cap hit

As John Clayton pointed out on ESPN a few days ago, the cap hit is not the reason that Chad Johnson won't be traded. They are far enough under the cap that they won't force themselves into a situation in which they have to cut veterans. The bottom line is that the Bungles as a franchise have not been willing to give in to players' requests to be traded b/c of being disgruntled or wanting a payday. Corey Dillon tried to pursue a trade much in the same way Chad Johnson has (i.e. being vocal in the media, throwing a tantrum, threatening to sit out, etc), and it took them almost 5 years to let him go. I think they also are a franchise which likes to cover its bases before letting franchise players go. Rudi was ready to come out off the bench and start before Dillon left the bengals. I would expect them to draft a receiver and then only think about letting CJ walk. But we will see... only time will really tell.

[SBXVII]

I'm for rebuilding but I don't get the feeling this is a rebuilding as much as everyone thinks. I think it was a higher a new coach who will not change to much of what we have and what we are doing which is why Zorn is talking to Gibbs alot. We have heard the defense will essentially remain the same and now they are talking about the run game remaining the same. The only thing to change is the passing, which I take it they are going to put more WR in the line up and change up the routes a little. It doesn't sound like whole hearted rebuilding to me. Which hopefully enables us to get back to the play offs. Slip in there a proven vet WR and one missing piece to the puzzle is filled. Listening to Snyders right hand man it sounds like they like what they have in pass rush. Scary because everyone believes they are maybe one pass rusher away from being dominant.

Then we fill all the other positions. DE/DT, Safety, CB, OL.

[SBXVII]

I would also have to immagine that if CJ became available Cincy would try to get the most for him. I could see a bidding war against the Eagles. Especially since they need a tall WR also and McNabb has thrown a tempertantrum about needing a big WR. Hell the Eagles kept sweetening the pot for one WR. LOL.

[Skinny Tee]

-Duplicate-

Lets keep in mind that it's Chad Johnson who wants to leave his team and it's the Bengals who have to move him if they want to oblige him.

That means compensation should be based on those factors. Anyone who is talking of two first round picks, or a first and third is extremely overestimating CJ's trade value.

Remember, if we wanted to acquire Chad for high draft picks we would have done it already. It's the Bengals problem, and Chad's wish to leave that gives us leverage if they decide to move him.

[skinsWill]

I think one way or another we make a trade on draft day, whether it be CJ, Boldin or Williams we get a Vet WR on draft day for our 1st and prob. Betts (or our 3rd). Now its all a matter of are the Cards/Lions going to try to get something for their guys b4 thier contracts are up next year (thinking they have enough $ tied up in their receivers already and franchising them prob. wont be an option) or if the Bengals are willing to take the cap hit for Johnson (bc. i dont think he will offer to pay any back). Personally i dont believe Williams will be avl. and we would prob. get the best out of our $ with Boldin, either one would help this team immensely, and i would be happy with either, as i think we all should/would.

And dont hate on Sandtrap has always been a solid contributor to this site.