Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Cowboys)

[GridIron26]

Here's my take on the game..

Linemen (both O and D): just like everybody said, we really need to work on it.. I just hope to death that FO will finally draft some Oline and Dline in first draft day.. We just cannot depend on veterans anymore, we have learned it firsthand last year and this year.. Maybe FO have some kind of learning-disablity or something.. Dline annoys me the most, not even one sack? Come on, FFS

Play-calling by Zorn: I do not think it's Zorn's fault.. He can't do anything if his players doesn't execute well, especially when O-line isn't protecting JC.. However, I do wonder why he doesn't call shotgun formation often..

Shaun Alexander: I don't get it, why is he in #3 spot? Is Rock really that bad in practice? There is a reason why nobody signed him after he was released.. And we are seeing it firsthand

DeAngelo Hall: He made a good impression in his first game as Redskins.. If he continues to do well, on and off field and in locker room.. Then this might be great thing for us..

Defense: Defense played great, several hard hits by our secondary.. Until 4th qr, where Barber ran through us.. We simply got manhandled in 4th qr..

Jason Taylor: I'm beginning to going back to my first opinion when we traded for him; he is not worth our 2nd rd pick.. Granted, he was injured and might still be.. But Evans played better than him last night.. I will continue to wait on this one..

Chris Horton: I'm going to keep giving him spotlight, he is going to get a big contract someday.. And I'm so buying his jersey someday.. Yes, he was the one who gave up a TD to a rookie TE.. But it was tight one, Romo threw a good one..

[Monksdown]

Regarding Rock - Maybe it takes him 10-15 yds to get up to speed.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

AGREED.

This is not a great defense. It's a good defense that is playing over its head.

I know I say this alot, but it's especially true of our defense - the sum is much better than the individual talent of it's parts. They are not great, but if we could find a pass rush, they could become great.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

AGREED.

This is not a great defense. It's a good defense that is playing over its head.

We won't be a great defense until 1) We develop a consistent pass rush, and 2) LaRon Landry learns how to diagnose route combinations and end up in the right place. We need him to play like a top five safety for this defensive scheme to work, and right now that scheme is not working.

The Cowboys also beat us up on the edge in the EXACT same way that the Patriots did last year. The fact that it took over a year for someone to copy that blueprint against us is frankly astounding.

(because Dallas has played us four times since that Pats game, and their coaching staff is just full of mental midgets)

If you are going to run on us, your receivers need to make good blocks, and the Cowboys receivers did yesterday. Of course, they could have called Owens for holding about 5 times, and didn't, but you've still got to be able to overcome that.

[redsk1]

Agree w/ SS take. I'll add:

JC looks slower for some reason....slower than many other young QB's like Flacco, Ryan, Romo, Edwards, Rodgers. He's just not too mobile and that might be his achilles heel. He's gotten alot better in his pocket presence but he still not there. Don't get me wrong our Oline wasn't good last night, but JC didn't shine either. JC needs near perfect protection to be really good. Most QB's can be pretty good w/ near perfect protection.

Defensive Line: No pass rush

Playcalling: Let it rip a little bit. If John Madden keeps repeating that we need to loosen up the Defense we probably do. No more 3 yard outs if they're not giving it to us.

Defense: Played pretty well. Our O didn't help out one bit.

Home Field Advantage: We have absolutely no home field advantage, because we lose at home quite often. Good teams don't do this.

It is what it is: We're a below average offensive team. The #'s show this. We're 10 games in. I've been worried that we can't put up points against bad teams only to hear...a win's a win. It is, but, that's why I was worried. We can't score points. We are also a very good defensive team.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm not going to sit here and call Thomas, Kelly, and Davis busts because obviously they're not.

People who start threads complaining about Sharpe, Marino, etc. having no respect for the team and then that same person saying the game is over with the Redskins down just 4 with nearly 8 minutes left to play Seriously? You start a whiny thread about how no one loves us and then you give up. Maybe before you start asking others to respect the team, you should too. Let's not forget we've come from behind plenty this year.

To the first point. You're right, you can't call them busts. That would imply some ability to predict the future, which we cannot do, but we can deal with reality in the present. Kelly can't get on the field, I think Davis probably could do something but I am basing on that on pure speculation since he has not done anything, but Thomas is a liability when he is on the field. He not only doesn't help, he actively hurts the team. He couldn't manage to line up on the LOS on one play (ever think of looking to the side judge and getting the signal Devin?) which cost the team an 8 yard gain on first down (from 2nd and 2 to 1st and 15) and then he dropped a 3rd down pass on the final drive that would have at least extended the drive. Hopefully he will turn into the #2 receiver on this team (but I'm starting to think the law of averages is against us ... how likely is it that 4 or 5 receivers from the 2nd round turn out to be really good?). The point, though, is that while it is premature to call him a bust it is not premature to point out that he seems incapable of doing simple things like lining up properly. And this game is not the first time that he has demonstrated a general lack of football IQ (not to mention ability ... right now about all I know he can do is run a 40 yards pretty fast). With Thomas it does not look like a question of the coaching staff being unable to get him involved in the offense, it is that he is fundamentally incapable of contributing (if you want to blame someone I guess we can point to Stan Hixon) but I have trouble blaming any coach for the type of mistakes the Thomas has repeatedly made this season.

To the second point. AMEN!!!

[jsnyder03]

Defense was great. Bottom line, you give up 14 points to a talented team, you have done your job. Obviously, they should have sold out and stopped Barber in the fourth quarter, but defense was not the problem.

If not for Cartwright, we would have have only one scoring drive all game, and we needed to convert a fourth down to keep that drive alive.

Campbell played tough, was hit often and got rid of the ball under duress on a number of occasions, but overall played poorly. The fourth and four summarized his night. Even if Moss catches that ball, it is not a first down. You need to a least give yourself a chance for success. I believe when he stepped up in the pocket, he could have run for a first. Jason, take what you can and live for another play. Let's try to WIN the game...you play way too conservatively.

On the bright side, we shouldn't have to break the bank to retain services.

[Jake2008]

Originally Posted by jsnyder03

Defense was great. Bottom line, you give up 14 points to a talented team, you have done your job. Obviously, they should have sold out and stopped Barber in the fourth quarter, but defense was not the problem.

If not for Cartwright, we would have have only one scoring drive all game, and we needed to convert a fourth down to keep that drive alive.

Campbell played tough, was hit often and got rid of the ball under duress on a number of occasions, but overall played poorly. The fourth and four summarized his night. Even if Moss catches that ball, it is not a first down. You need to a least give yourself a chance for success. I believe when he stepped up in the pocket, he could have run for a first. Jason, take what you can and live for another play. Let's try to WIN the game...you play way too conservatively.

On the bright side, we shouldn't have to break the bank to retain services.

Ya what is it with punt coverage teams having such a problem with downing the ball when it is close to the goal line? You would think that they have this drilled in their head to keep sight of the goal line and don't cross it. Cartwright is a veteran and should have know better. Heck the ball was stopped and laying there. No need to dive on it like it was a live gernade and you were taking one for the team.

[GMScud]

It's not that we're 6-4 instead of 8-2 or 7-3. It's not even that we've lost two in a row at home in ugly fashion. It's the fact that we had a chance to BURY our archrival with a regular season sweep in front of a home crowd and wasted the opportunity. We gave our hated rival their season back. That to me is just flat out nauseating.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

It's not that we're 6-4 instead of 8-2 or 7-3. It's not even that we've lost two in a row at home in ugly fashion. It's the fact that we had a chance to BURY our archrival with a regular season sweep in front of a home crowd and wasted the opportunity. We gave our hated rival their season back. That to me is just flat out nauseating.

Yeah, that's what makes this so hard to take and makes me f**king SICK!

[GTripp0012]

Wait, I thought we won the draft? Now you're telling me we lost it?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Wait, I thought we won the draft? Now you're telling me we lost it?

What did the Ol Ball Coach say? "Hindsight is 50-50?"

I'm not saying at least one of our three top picks won't pan out, I'm saying we should have drafted the one guy we had highest on our chart (Thomas I guess), and used the other two to bolster some badly needed offensive depth.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

What did the Ol Ball Coach say? "Hindsight is 50-50?"

I'm not saying at least one of our three top picks won't pan out, I'm saying we should have drafted the one guy we had highest on our chart (Thomas I guess), and used the other two to bolster some badly needed offensive depth.

You sound like me on draft day.

Look, it's hard to believe that our WRs aren't still in good position for the future, but we're going to need to see something from Malcolm Kelly in the last six games to go in feeling like we accomplished something.

[Meks]

about 4-5 horribly blown calls by the refs.

2 that were reviewd.

fuckin horrible.

[Meks]

its disgusting.

didnt score off turnovers, so getting them means shit.

jason taylor, i completly agree, get him off the field he isnt playing well AT ALL right now.

DeAngelo, welcome.... u should have been in when Fred was gasping for air...

shaun alexander? ... goodbye dude, have a seat Rock should be ahead of u on the depth chart u are terrible and dont even deserve to have reps in the game.

jason campbell ... can't zoom in on moss so much and force him the ball... can't blame u for the O-Line lack of pass pro....

clinton, played well as usual... but i think maybe u should have rested 2 be honest.

suisam ... what else is new, good for a critical miss in every game more so than not.

fletcher, where were u 95% of the game last night?

REFS - F OFF. BARBER'S ELBOW WAS DOWN AND THE BALL DIDNT BREAK THE PLAIN.

AND IM GLAD UR ALL THE SUDDEN ALLOWED 2 BE IN THE NUETRAL ZONE WHEN THE BALL IS SNAPPED AND ITS NOT OFFSIDE... GET A NEW CAREER CUZ UR NOT WORTH THE SHT THAT COMES OUTTA MY ASS IN THE NFL.

READ THE FUCKIN RULE BOOK ROCK HAD THE BALL AND WASNT ON THE GOAL-LINE THAT PLAY IS DEAD AT THAT POINT.

CLINTON WAS OUT-OF BOUNDS THANKS FOR FUCKING UP A POSSIBLE TD DRIVE BEFORE THE HALF.

F'N DISGRACEFUL REFS.


that is all. im frustrated now.