Draft Thoughts - The Post-Haynesworth Edition

[vaoutlaws2006]

if they dont trade down to pick up more draft picks then at #13 you take the best offensive lineman on the board.

[rypper11]

I want Aaron Curry. Two months ago it looked like he'd be bottom half of the 1st round but now it's looking top 3. I think he is the only "can't miss" in the draft and plays a position of need.
Trade up with Detroit and take him. This year's 1st and 3rd round picks and next year's 2nd round. Detroit needs help at so many spots it would make sense for them and we'd get, IMO, a decades worth of Pro Bowls from the OLB position. Plus, after making the biggest splash in FA we'd also have the biggest splash in the draft.

[Nflnick11]

Originally Posted by rypper11

I want Aaron Curry. Two months ago it looked like he'd be bottom half of the 1st round but now it's looking top 3. I think he is the only "can't miss" in the draft and plays a position of need.
Trade up with Detroit and take him. This year's 1st and 3rd round picks and next year's 2nd round. Detroit needs help at so many spots it would make sense for them and we'd get, IMO, a decades worth of Pro Bowls from the OLB position. Plus, after making the biggest splash in FA we'd also have the biggest splash in the draft.

Hes a great player, but keep in mind that the higher the pick, the more money they're due to make, plus we can get another decent SLB later in the first/ second round (but you could say the same for RTs as well, IMO) i would go RT in the first, because next year there will be a few good LBs to choose from wereas with OT's I can only think of one off the top of my head... Brandon spikes of Florida I think will be a beter pro than curry, so I think we could stay/trade down from where we are ... Plus we have HB blades and Jason Taylor who can replace marcus for this year if nothing works out come draft time

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by rypper11

I want Aaron Curry. Two months ago it looked like he'd be bottom half of the 1st round but now it's looking top 3. I think he is the only "can't miss" in the draft and plays a position of need.
Trade up with Detroit and take him. This year's 1st and 3rd round picks and next year's 2nd round. Detroit needs help at so many spots it would make sense for them and we'd get, IMO, a decades worth of Pro Bowls from the OLB position. Plus, after making the biggest splash in FA we'd also have the biggest splash in the draft.

Good luck making that deal. That would be the cheapest price for moving to number one of all time.

[redskinjim]

yes lets get beef on the o line like the ravens

[REDSKIN1]

With the signings we have made thus far, I don't see us having enough money to sign a player that we would sign at 13. However, I was watching Redskins Nation last night and Vinny said that even with the signings the 13th draft picks budget has already been put aside. I really impressed on how the Skins are able to manage the cap. It looks like we were the ones 61 mil below the cap. Anyway, I would definetly go after a LB with our first pick, we definetly have a need there, with London getting up and age and the loss of Marcus. I just can't see Blades filling that position. I think the signing of Dockery bought our line a little more time. However if we do go after a lineman, I would think the Center position is the most pressing need for the team right now.

[ChickenMonkey]

2 scenarios

NO TRADE
1st Andre Smith OT
3rd Tyronne McKenzie OLB
5th Matt Shaughnessy DE Or L.Sidbury
6th Frantz Joseph ILB

Trade Down w/ Detriot Add 2nd rd Pick
1st Larry English OLB
2nd Jamon Meredith OT
3rd Asher Allen CB
5th Matt Shaughnessy DE or L.Sidbury
6th Frantz Joseph ILB

[Nflnick11]

Originally Posted by ChickenMonkey

2 scenarios

NO TRADE
1st Andre Smith OT
3rd Tyronne McKenzie OLB
5th Matt Shaughnessy DE Or L.Sidbury
6th Frantz Joseph ILB

Trade Down w/ Detriot Add 2nd rd Pick
1st Larry English OLB
2nd Jamon Meredith OT
3rd Asher Allen CB
5th Matt Shaughnessy DE or L.Sidbury
6th Frantz Joseph ILB

I love both your senarios, especially because I like about 75% of the players you named fitting in on our team... But ILB I feel isn't a need since we got blades and fletcher , and what do you think we should get Asher Allen or joe burnett of UCF who is a GREAT returner but just decent cover skills...although his coach George O'leary said that he's the best corner he's coached since Asante samuel...plus mayacok is high on him as a sleeper, and his former college teammate brandon Marshall has been telling the bongos to get this guy

[The Goat]

Caponomics at the Park - Redskins 360 - Washington Redskins Blog - The Washington Times

If the Elfin article is accurate and we are done in FA I think we almost have to approach the draft like we're gonna pick two legit starters at RT and OLB.

To me then the key is getting a pick in the 2nd round via trade so a deal w/ the Lions makes sense... they get the 13th overall and we get their 1st and 2nd rd picks. If we have to sweeten the deal by giving them our last pick (6th round?) we ought to, again just to guarantee we get a shot at 2nd round talent.

... at 20, if all this works out, I think we would be really fortunate to get either Oher, A. Smith or Rey M. If any one of them is available it's an easy pick and then we take the other pos of need in the 2nd round. Anyway, I don't think Vinny can really take the BPA approach, which I thought was just some made-up bullshit from last year anyway. We have to get RT and OLB studs in the first 2 rounds.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Caponomics at the Park - Redskins 360 - Washington Redskins Blog - The Washington Times

If the Elfin article is accurate and we are done in FA I think we almost have to approach the draft like we're gonna pick two legit starters at RT and OLB.

To me then the key is getting a pick in the 2nd round via trade so a deal w/ the Lions makes sense... they get the 13th overall and we get their 1st and 2nd rd picks. If we have to sweeten the deal by giving them our last pick (6th round?) we ought to, again just to guarantee we get a shot at 2nd round talent.

... at 20, if all this works out, I think we would be really fortunate to get either Oher, A. Smith or Rey M. If any one of them is available it's an easy pick and then we take the other pos of need in the 2nd round. Anyway, I don't think Vinny can really take the BPA approach, which I thought was just some made-up bullshit from last year anyway. We have to get RT and OLB studs in the first 2 rounds.

In that case the availability of the big 4 will function as very attractive trade bait. Still I want Andre Smith for ourselves. Getting a guy like Smith could add about 100 to 200 yards to our rushing total next year.

[joelew1@cox.net]

The D was 4th overall last year. The focus should be more on the O side because they cost the team some games last year by not producing.

[mcludka]

I keep hearing about Mack on here but everywhere I look, he isn't te number 1 rated Center. What gives?

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by mcludka

I keep hearing about Mack on here but everywhere I look, he isn't te number 1 rated Center. What gives?

Alex Mack, Center California : NFL Draft Prospect

[SmootSmack]

If we stay at 13, I think we take an OT (and maybe slide Jansen inside if it's Oher?), and then in the 3rd round take a LB like Marcus Freeman who should be available around then.

But depending on how things shake out (particularly with Stafford) we could be in a situation where the Lions want to move up to our spot at #13 and we can slide down to #20 and get one of the USC linebackers and then in the early 2nd take Eben Britton (or maybe Tyson Jackson, and get a like Fulton in the 3rd)

Either way, we (meaning the Redskins) have to decide which of the following three positions LB, OL, DE is least important because it's likely one of them won't be truly addressed in the draft.

I do know that Cerrato and Campbell (Scott Campbell) love the USC threesome

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

If we stay at 13, I think we take an OT (and maybe slide Jansen inside if it's Oher?), and then in the 3rd round take a LB like Marcus Freeman who should be available around then.

But depending on how things shake out (particularly with Stafford) we could be in a situation where the Lions want to move up to our spot at #13 and we can slide down to #20 and get one of the USC linebackers and then in the early 2nd take Eben Britton (or maybe Tyson Jackson, and get a like Fulton in the 3rd)

Either way, we (meaning the Redskins) have to decide which of the following three positions LB, OL, DE is least important because it's likely one of them won't be truly addressed in the draft.

I do know that Cerrato and Campbell (Scott Campbell) love the USC threesome

I hope Cushing isn't someone they're considering @ 13 or even 20 for that matter...

Seriously, if we're gonna settle for a guy w/ durability and injury concerns i.e. Cushing, Orekpo, then just bring Marcus back for a cheap deal and maybe swap he and Rocky.

.. on that note I don't understand why Marcus was kept at SLB the last couple years. It really seems like the SLB gets stuck in coverage far more than WLB therefor Rocky would have always made more sense @ strong side and Marcus and weak side. Like Lavar was never great in coverage and played WLB... i would want to have seen Marcus in the same scenario to sort of hide his downside.