Ramsey on the move again

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not sure the Spurrier excuse holds up anymore. Regardless of who coached him up those first few years I don't think his career would have ended up any different.

I'm tired of the Spurrier excuse myself. If a guy can play QB all his life and having a bad coach for 2 years can ruin his career then he had problems befor then. He has now had 5 years to get over Spurrier and seems he cannot find a team.

[CRedskinsRule]

succint. Thanks

[FRPLG]

He simply didn't have the mental makeup to achieve logn term success. I don't think he was dumb so his defense reading had to be at least ok but he clearly went nutso once the ball was snapped. He rushed sometimes, he was way too slow at others. His dcision making seemd to suffer from "ohshitfluenza" and he simply didn't have the right makeup to make plays beyond simple open WRs. As a backup I think the guy had a place in the league but if he is your starter for any length of time you're doomed.

As far as Spurrier, maybe his scheme quickened the ripening on Ramsey's inabilities but they were there to begin with sans OBC.

[redsk1]

Ramsey didn't have it. We all get caught up in thinking that our QB is the next great thing or our longterm solution. Ramsey deserved a chance, he got it, and didn't have it. He's a mediocre NFL journeyman QB. Nothing wrong w/ that.

After a couple of seasons, if we can't tell whether or not a QB has it, he probably doesn't. There are a few QB's though, who find "it" as they get older. Rich Gannon and Trent Green comes to mind (just coincidence they were both Skins).

[InsanePianist]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Ramsey didn't have it. We all get caught up in thinking that our QB is the next great thing or our longterm solution. Ramsey deserved a chance, he got it, and didn't have it. He's a mediocre NFL journeyman QB. Nothing wrong w/ that.

After a couple of seasons, if we can't tell whether or not a QB has it, he probably doesn't. There are a few QB's though, who find "it" as they get older. Rich Gannon and Trent Green comes to mind (just coincidence they were both Skins).

Agreed. And the same thing should be said for JC if he shows no improvement this year.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by InsanePianist

Agreed. And the same thing should be said for JC if he shows no improvement this year.

Agreed.. I think that we just get a glimmer of hope in our eyes with a lot of guys because some of us are looking to find the first one we've ever seen play.. and some only the 2nd

we haven't seen one since joey t, so it's easy to get excited.. maybe even make excuses

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Ramsey didn't have it. We all get caught up in thinking that our QB is the next great thing or our longterm solution. Ramsey deserved a chance, he got it, and didn't have it. He's a mediocre NFL journeyman QB. Nothing wrong w/ that.

After a couple of seasons, if we can't tell whether or not a QB has it, he probably doesn't. There are a few QB's though, who find "it" as they get older. Rich Gannon and Trent Green comes to mind (just coincidence they were both Skins).

Well I think Gannon was an aberration. He really wasn't much a QB for most of his career and only suceeded once put in a REALLY good scheme that infalted his numbers. I don't think he was more of a good QB than say Mark Rypien ever was. Green was probably a better QB but he was stuck on the bench here for a while and then kept getting hammered by inuries at the worst times.

[Monkeydad]

OK, I get it...It's Spurrier's fault that Ramsey lacked the ability to ever learn from his rookie mistakes and played like a rookie every year he was here. If he wasn't throwing a pick when the team was backed up against the opposition's goal line, he was fumbling. He got lucky with some long TD throws but more often than not, he'd make a bad decision. 34 TDs/29 INTs with 23 fumbles/12 lost was not great leadership for us. I was so happy to see him go. AN old Mark Brunell was a big upgrade for us. Ramsey could never approach 23TD/10INT and lead us to the playoffs. He didn't...nor couldn't.


I was never a fan of his, he isn't really cut out to start in this league...or even play QB, really.

[ethat001]

Saints could be closing in on Patrick Ramsey | ProFootballTalk.com

Saints could be closing in on Patrick Ramsey

Posted by Evan Silva on June 6, 2010 1:37 PM ET
Jeff Duncan of the New Orleans Times-Picayune appears to have information that leads him to believe the Saints will be signing free agent quarterback Patrick Ramsey.

"Saints officials have said another arm likely will be added before training camp starts next month," writes Duncan. "(Hint: Put your money on Patrick Ramsey.)"

Attempting to upgrade over 2009 backup Mark Brunell, the Saints have considered Ramsey and former Panthers backup Josh McCown. Both quarterbacks visited the team in early April, though the Saints' hands are tied due to the uncapped year's "Final Eight" rule. Barring the loss of one of their free agents, New Orleans can't making a signing of its own until July 22.

Chase Daniel, a 2009 undrafted free agent out of Missouri, is currently quarterbacking the second-team offense at Saints OTAs. Former Duke point guard Greg Paulus remains in camp on a tryout basis, but isn't a serious candidate for an NFL contract, let alone the primary backup job behind Drew Brees.

Ramsey, 31, spent the end of last season on the Lions' roster after Matthew Stafford went on injured reserve.

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I guess Ramsey may finally end up on a Super Bowl winning team. Funny, because their previous backup was Brunell, and they still have Chase Daniels (the Skins preseason sensation)... They seem to be collecting old Redskins QBs..

[jamf]

I don't understand how Spurrier ruined Ramsey.

There are plenty of QBs out there that take a pounding. I think it's time for us to admit that we made a mistake with PR. He is not a good QB.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by jamf

I don't understand how Spurrier ruined Ramsey.

There are plenty of QBs out there that take a pounding. I think it's time for us to admit that we made a mistake with PR. He is not a good QB.

Well, very good QBs can probably take a pounding, maybe just "good" QBs or average QBs need to not be shellshocked their rookie season. Regardless, having your rookie QB used as a punching bag is not a good thing. I wouldn't dismiss this whole situation as PR just being a bad QB. Is not like Spurrier was the best coach out there.

[freddyg12]

strong arm, great heart, good guy, but poor pocket presence, takes far too long to read & make a decision. Sound familiar?

[over the mountain]

i liked how ramsey and jon jansen were good buddies. whenever jansen would run over to lend ramsey a hand getting up after he got competely killed on the blindside, i always thought it was cute. haha i said cute.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

i liked how ramsey and jon jansen were good buddies. whenever jansen would run over to lend ramsey a hand getting up after he got competely killed on the blindside, i always thought it was cute. haha i said cute.

lame

[Monkeydad]

You worry me.