OM FIELD: Redskins OL - Tale of the Tape

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Of course it's not ALL about size. But all things being EQUAL, the big man wins every time IMO. If I have a choice between 2 guys with the same skill set at C, G or T but ones 288 lbs. and the other is 315 lbs., I'm taking the 315 lb. guy every time.

Tell that to New England with their center at 296. And that's the problem - you aren't really going to have that decision.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Tell that to New England with their center at 296. And that's the problem - you aren't really going to have that decision.

What???

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

What???

Like I said, if you have a "problem", where deciding between one good lineman and another - then you don't choose, you play both.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Like I said, if you have a "problem", where deciding between one good lineman and another - then you don't choose, you play both.

So if you have to decide between 2 good centers with the same skill set but one is 27 lbs. bigger than the other, you play both? How do you do that? I think somehow you misread my post. I'm not going to play 2 RT's either just because they have the same skill set. Neither one is going to be as good as my LT.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

So if you have to decide between 2 good centers with the same skill set but one is 27 lbs. bigger than the other, you play both? How do you do that? I think somehow you misread my post. I'm not going to play 2 RT's either just because they have the same skill set. Neither one is going to be as good as my LT.

This would be a rare situation, but I would rotate them. This would lend to the idea of them not wearing out at year's end. And like I said, this is the problem - you will not have this decision.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

This would be a rare situation, but I would rotate them. This would lend to the idea of them not wearing out at year's end. And like I said, this is the problem - you will not have this decision.

You will never have 2 guys similar in talent fighting for the same position? And you would rotate your Centers? Wow. It's pretty much a given that if you have 2 good LT's of a similar skill set you put one at RT. But for the purpose of this thread, if you have a surperior LG and a surperior Center, what becomes of the RG position if the 2 who are battling for that spot are much the same as far as talent but one is 30 lb's heavier? Are you saying to rotate them? Or switch one to Center even though you have a surperior center? To say you will not have this decision seems a little odd to me. I believe these kind of decisions are made all the time. Guys are fighting for starting positions all through Training camp and Preseason and it is not always a clear cut choice who should start.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

You will never have 2 guys similar in talent fighting for the same position? And you would rotate your Centers? Wow.

No, if you had to decide between 2 good centers, it would be better off rotating them or playing one at guard. This isn't about just 2 similiar guys. You have 2 guys at center that's not worth playing - you go get another guy.

What is it that you don't understand with that logic? What has gotten you so baffled?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

This would be a rare situation, but I would rotate them. This would lend to the idea of them not wearing out at year's end. And like I said, this is the problem - you will not have this decision.

Offensive Lineman are not familiar with this word.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

No, if you had to decide between 2 good centers, it would be better off rotating them or playing one at guard. This isn't about just 2 similiar guys. You have 2 guys at center that's not worth playing - you go get another guy.

What is it that you don't understand with that logic? What has gotten you so baffled?

Oh, so you just go get a better one? Well heck let's go do that at all the positions. I kinda think you're a little baffled about what this thread is all about.

[warriorzpath]

Look, if you have one center that is effective in playing well as another, then their weight and height don't really matter does it.

It only matters if the bigger guy plays better.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Oh, so you just go get a better one? Well heck let's go do that at all the positions. I kinda think you're a little baffled about what this thread is all about.

That's what the thread is exactly about.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

No, if you had to decide between 2 good centers, it would be better off rotating them or playing one at guard. This isn't about just 2 similiar guys. You have 2 guys at center that's not worth playing - you go get another guy.

What is it that you don't understand with that logic? What has gotten you so baffled?

So you kick Randy Thomas to the bench even though the Center is only as good as the other Center but not as good a guard as Thomas? Most centers are not as good as guards. That doesn't make them bad Centers.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Look, if you have one center that is effective in playing well as another, then their weight and height don't really matter does it.

It only matters if the bigger guy plays better.

If they're the same in talent, usually the bigger guy WILL play bigger. Especially against a 340 pound nose tackle. What is it YOU don't understand?

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

So you kick Randy Thomas to the bench even though the Center is only as good as the other Center but not as good a guard as Thomas? Most centers are not as good as guards. That doesn't make them bad Centers.

Who said anything about Randy Thomas?

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

If they're the same in talent, usually the bigger guy WILL play bigger. Especially against a 340 pound nose tackle. What is it YOU don't understand?

That's the whole argument here. That's not what is accepted. Why is the smaller center starting in New England?

... and if they play equally effective, one doesn't play better than another - they're equal!