I think this might be our answer for OLB... (Greg Ellis?)

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

So you are saying the Skins should never trade or sign a player who is a ex-cowboy because previous moves havent worked out?

Sometimes I think peoples hate for the Cowboys blinds there judgement. I actually think if DeMarcus Ware somehow hit the FA market some Skins fans would be saying I dont want that Cowgirl trash.

Yes I am saying that. Bro "if" that ever happened then I would admit I was wrong, but it hasn't. It's like people continue to play with fire and have 3rd degree burns. (not that extreme but you know what I'm getting at) You're probably the same person that wanted Deion, Alvin Harper, and Brandon Noble. And Look what that did for us....

Originally Posted by vallin21

Yes I am saying that. Bro "if" that ever happened then I would admit I was wrong, but it hasn't. It's like people continue to play with fire and have 3rd degree burns. (not that extreme but you know what I'm getting at) You're probably the same person that wanted Deion, Alvin Harper, and Brandon Noble. And Look what that did for us....

Play with fire? Teams try the best they can to get the talent needed to win. I dont care what team he last played for. He could of played for the Satan All-Stars and id still sign him if he gave my team a better chance to win.

I didnt have a problem with Deion Sanders at the time. Hes probably one of the top 3 corners to ever play the game. So yeah back in 2000 I didnt mind having a trio of Champ Bailey, Deion Sanders, and Darrell Green. The only Skins fans who didnt want Deion were the ones holding a grudge for all the times he whipped our ass over the years.

As for Alvin Harper I didnt have any opinion one way or the other. I didnt think he was anything special. He did play 2 seasons for Tampa Bay before us so it wasnt like he came right from the Cowboys here.

Brandon Noble had knee problems but when he played for us he played well. He even won the Ed Block Courage Award after coming back from his first knee injury with us. I wanted Noble and had no problems with that move. You cant predict knee injuries they could happen to anyone. He probably would of came back and played some more for us if he didnt get a staph infection that ended his career after his 2nd knee injury.

[ChickenMonkey]

I think not!! Didnt we just go theough this with Mr Taylor, a 30 something, (beast)
that was suppose to bring the pass rush back to DC...enough with the washed up OLB/DE types...Weve got several guys that can play solid at OLB

[DBUCHANON101]

he is more of a DE in a 4-3 than a OLB. But he is also a friggan COWGIRL so no f'n way!! I think i just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

he is more of a DE in a 4-3 than a OLB. But he is also a friggan COWGIRL so no f'n way!! I think i just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

[skinsnut]

Who's that old ex-steeler LB who was awesome last year for the Dolphins?

I'm not saying I'm in favor of trading for this guy...I'm not...but the point that just because you are older that you suck isn't always true...I think some of us are just a bit gunshy..thats all

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Who's that old ex-steeler LB who was awesome last year for the Dolphins?

I'm not saying I'm in favor of trading for this guy...I'm not...but the point that just because you are older that you suck isn't always true...I think some of us are just a bit gunshy..thats all

You're thinking of Joey Porter.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

You're thinking of Joey Porter.

And he was 31 last year, not 34. Not to mention how the Dolphins used him as opposed to how we would use ellis.

[DBUCHANON101]

We had chances to upgrade our LB postion in the draft and instead we went CB. at the time of that pick MLB Phillips from TCU was there,the kid is a tackling machine. OLB McKinzie From South Florida was there,very good player taken by the Pats. Too bad he was injured.

[mrreddman]

No way in hell should we TRADE for a 34 year old LB who was a 3-4 outside backer. Didnt we try this last year with a much better player in JT? Id rather go with Wilson, Blades or MW than trade for Ellis. If he is released and/or Rocky gets injured then maybe bring him in...otherwise I will pass on him. D Brooks at WLB and Rocky at SLB would be better IMO.

[Paintrain]

Old-check
Plays a redundant position-check
Would cost picks or $ that we don't have to spare-check

Sign him up.

[Skinny Tee]

When was the last non-draft day, divisional trade?

I really can't think of one. I doubt that it's done because each team would think that the other was getting over on them no matter what was exchanged.

Really though does someone have the history on that?

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

When was the last non-draft day, divisional trade?

I really can't think of one. I doubt that it's done because each team would think that the other was getting over on them no matter what was exchanged.

Really though does someone have the history on that?

The only one that comes to mind was in 2007 when the Dolphins traded Wes Welker to the Patriots for 2007 2nd and 7th round picks.

EDIT- Just remembered that Drew Bledsoe was traded from the Patriots to the Bills in 2002 for a 2003 1st round pick.

[dmek25]

what part of the word successful didnt you understand?

[30gut]

I got answer to the OLB problem...


4. The Washington Redskins have a completely different plan for first-round choice Brian Orakpo than some people expected. At the Redskins' minicamp, Orakpo was used as the starting strongside linebacker. The plan is for him to blitz from the strong side on first and second downs. On passing downs, he will line up at right defensive end next to Albert Haynesworth, the former Tennessee Titans star who appeared dominating at his first Redskins camp. Orakpo was drafted to rush the passer. The surprise is that he won't just be doing it from a defensive end position.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=4135310

unleash the hounds!!