Some Zorn Story...But It Hints at Campbell Getting Paid

KLHJ2 · 07-14-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

And the quarterback who was found to be most similar to Campbell, using his accuracy score...well, you guys will like this:

Jay Cutler. Almost identical in accuracy last year.

Out of curiosity where was Matt Cassell in this equation?

Lotus · 07-14-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry

Out of curiosity where was Matt Cassell in this equation?

Cassel was 9th at 84.6

tryfuhl · 07-13-2009, 05:06 PM

It's interesting to see the numbers broken down that way, comforting as well, but the only thing that matters at the end of the season is how far you got and how many W's you pulled if not into the playoffs. That'll be sooner to seal Campbell's fate than some blog's ratings.

GTripp0012 · 07-13-2009, 05:09 PM

Although, Campbell has taken a beating over the last two years, he's been the most consistently hit QB in the league over that timeframe, so if there's a legitimate worry that he might regress, it's in the fact that very few quarterbacks have been able to deal with this much punishment over two years and continue to improve.

But then again, we'll know all this by the end of the season anyway, so there's no need for long term worry.

MTK · 07-13-2009, 05:12 PM

I've got a good feeling about this year. Yeah I know it's easy to feel good about things in July, but just call it a hunch. I'm feeling something special, and no I haven't been drinking.

hooskins · 07-13-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I've got a good feeling about this year. Yeah I know it's easy to feel good about things in July, but just call it a hunch. I'm feeling something special, and no I haven't been drinking.

I feel similar in that expectations are low and we finally have some stability. Not much change over the offseason(minus AH) is a good thing IMO.

Gmanc711 · 07-13-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

I feel similar in that expectations are low and we finally have some stability. Not much change over the offseason(minus AH) is a good thing IMO.

I guess I have that kind of feeling. I would not be shocked if we went 7-9, I would not be shocked if we went 11-5. I think we have the potential to have one of the top 3 defenses in the league, I really do. Our offense is a huge question mark. I still worry greatly about our line, and dont think we did enough to address it. I love the Dockery signing for the longterm of the team (and I'm a huge Dock guy)... but I dont really know that he is that much of an upgrade over Kendall.

Hog1 · 07-13-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I've got a good feeling about this year. Yeah I know it's easy to feel good about things in July, but just call it a hunch. I'm feeling something special, and no I haven't been drinking.

I have a good feeling as well........but the difference is I don't have to Sell myself on it as I did with Spurrier
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Lotus · 07-13-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I've got a good feeling about this year. Yeah I know it's easy to feel good about things in July, but just call it a hunch. I'm feeling something special, and no I haven't been drinking.

I feel the same.

djnemo65 · 07-13-2009, 08:08 PM

Excellent read. Really encapsulates what makes Zorn such a diamond in the bromide spewing world of NFL coaches.

53Fan · 07-13-2009, 08:23 PM

I like Zorn and I like the direction this team is going. I think a lot of people are going to be surprised....... and it's going to feel so good!

SBXVII · 07-13-2009, 09:56 PM

I like Zorn, he reminds me of a young Gibbs. His only bad point I can see is he calls out players instead of simply diverting the attention as Gibbs did. I never see any point in pointing fingers when it's a team sport. Other then that I think he actually is good for the team and if given time hope he does well. I too feel this yr will be special ....but I have felt every yr would be "the yr." I guess if they have bolstered the O-line well enough then Campbell will do fine in my book but if the O-line struggles then expect the same as last yr.

As far as Campbell goes I like him. He doesn't get too excited or flustered but that is also is bad points. I still wonder about his ability to read defenses but if the O-line gives him time then perhaps he will do ok.

I'm not expecting a SB, and I'm not even expecting play offs as I have in the past. I simply want the team to be better then last yr. and not come in last place in the NFCEast. If they can do that I'll be satisfied. So long as they are showing improvement. If they digress then boot all the coach's and start over, allow the HC to pick his staff, give him time to build the team around what he's trying to do and that may mean cutting some players that don't fit the system. Although the defense is getting it done if the team decides to ax everything and start over then I would look into the 3-4 defense since we have AH.

I just hope Zorn does well so we are not "starting over" again. Any good offense takes what some believe ...3-5 yrs to master. We have not given any coach that time since Norv. Gibbs would have been given the time but went out and picked up Saunders and his system was tweeked too much. Basically learning a new offense all over again.

freddyg12 · 07-14-2009, 08:14 AM

Nice article & good stats GT.

What struck me about this is how a coach's approach can be seemingly well recieved by one player - Campbell - but not by another - Portis.

Also, that's really the first thing I recall reading that actually mentions that Snyder said he'll pay JC if he has a big year. I don't recall that ever making it to print before.

firstdown · 07-14-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

Nice article & good stats GT.

What struck me about this is how a coach's approach can be seemingly well recieved by one player - Campbell - but not by another - Portis.

Also, that's really the first thing I recall reading that actually mentions that Snyder said he'll pay JC if he has a big year. I don't recall that ever making it to print before.

I would think that would just be common sense to keep your QB when he starts hitting his stride. I just hope he hits that stride.

GTripp0012 · 07-14-2009, 03:36 PM

Using the graph, the 13 most prolific passers from last year were:

Brees
Warner
Pennington
Schaub
Delhomme
Rivers
Peyton
Garcia
Cutler
Rodgers
Romo
Cassel
Edwards

Which sounds about right, or at least acceptable.

07-13-2009, 05:06 PM	#3
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 42 Posts: 12,514	Re: Some Zorn Story...But It Hints at Campbell Getting Paid It's interesting to see the numbers broken down that way, comforting as well, but the only thing that matters at the end of the season is how far you got and how many W's you pulled if not into the playoffs. That'll be sooner to seal Campbell's fate than some blog's ratings.

07-13-2009, 05:09 PM	#4
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: Some Zorn Story...But It Hints at Campbell Getting Paid Although, Campbell has taken a beating over the last two years, he's been the most consistently hit QB in the league over that timeframe, so if there's a legitimate worry that he might regress, it's in the fact that very few quarterbacks have been able to deal with this much punishment over two years and continue to improve. But then again, we'll know all this by the end of the season anyway, so there's no need for long term worry. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

07-13-2009, 05:12 PM	#5
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,038	Re: Some Zorn Story...But It Hints at Campbell Getting Paid I've got a good feeling about this year. Yeah I know it's easy to feel good about things in July, but just call it a hunch. I'm feeling something special, and no I haven't been drinking. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-13-2009, 08:08 PM	#10
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: Some Zorn Story...But It Hints at Campbell Getting Paid Excellent read. Really encapsulates what makes Zorn such a diamond in the bromide spewing world of NFL coaches.

07-13-2009, 08:23 PM	#11
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Some Zorn Story...But It Hints at Campbell Getting Paid I like Zorn and I like the direction this team is going. I think a lot of people are going to be surprised....... and it's going to feel so good! __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

07-13-2009, 09:56 PM	#12
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Some Zorn Story...But It Hints at Campbell Getting Paid I like Zorn, he reminds me of a young Gibbs. His only bad point I can see is he calls out players instead of simply diverting the attention as Gibbs did. I never see any point in pointing fingers when it's a team sport. Other then that I think he actually is good for the team and if given time hope he does well. I too feel this yr will be special ....but I have felt every yr would be "the yr." I guess if they have bolstered the O-line well enough then Campbell will do fine in my book but if the O-line struggles then expect the same as last yr. As far as Campbell goes I like him. He doesn't get too excited or flustered but that is also is bad points. I still wonder about his ability to read defenses but if the O-line gives him time then perhaps he will do ok. I'm not expecting a SB, and I'm not even expecting play offs as I have in the past. I simply want the team to be better then last yr. and not come in last place in the NFCEast. If they can do that I'll be satisfied. So long as they are showing improvement. If they digress then boot all the coach's and start over, allow the HC to pick his staff, give him time to build the team around what he's trying to do and that may mean cutting some players that don't fit the system. Although the defense is getting it done if the team decides to ax everything and start over then I would look into the 3-4 defense since we have AH. I just hope Zorn does well so we are not "starting over" again. Any good offense takes what some believe ...3-5 yrs to master. We have not given any coach that time since Norv. Gibbs would have been given the time but went out and picked up Saunders and his system was tweeked too much. Basically learning a new offense all over again.

07-14-2009, 08:14 AM	#13
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Some Zorn Story...But It Hints at Campbell Getting Paid Nice article & good stats GT. What struck me about this is how a coach's approach can be seemingly well recieved by one player - Campbell - but not by another - Portis. Also, that's really the first thing I recall reading that actually mentions that Snyder said he'll pay JC if he has a big year. I don't recall that ever making it to print before.

07-14-2009, 03:36 PM	#15
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: Some Zorn Story...But It Hints at Campbell Getting Paid Using the graph, the 13 most prolific passers from last year were: Brees Warner Pennington Schaub Delhomme Rivers Peyton Garcia Cutler Rodgers Romo Cassel Edwards Which sounds about right, or at least acceptable. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

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