Best Training Camp Battle of 2009

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I think the battle for Mike Williams right now is to get in shape and make the team. If he's the starter by opening day, it's a miracle. I do think he'll make the team, but if he beats out Heyer in the short time he's had, I'll be surprised. Heyer hasn't just been sitting on his ass since last season.

Good point 53!

vallin, as for Barnes, see the article below. Barnes got a 41 on the Wonderlic. While the Wonderlic is an imperfect measure, we still have reason to think that he may pick up the defense quickly from a mental standpoint.



ASHBURN, Va. (AP)—The Washington Redskins signed third-round draft pick Kevin Barnes(notes) to a four-year deal with a $782,500 bonus.

Barnes is a cornerback who played at Maryland and was the 80th overall pick in April.

Also Thursday, the Redskins cut two rookie free agents: defensive end Derek Walker of Illinois, and wide receiver Jaison Williams of Oregon.

Barnes started all 20 games he played over the last two seasons at Maryland.

He posted the highest score (41) on the Wonderlic logic-thinking test given to prospects at this year’s NFL Combine and is also well-known for a big hit that became an Internet sensation. Barnes leveled California’s Jahvid Best last season, leaving Best on the ground several minutes before the running back vomited.

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Good point 53!

vallin, as for Barnes, see the article below. Barnes got a 41 on the Wonderlic. While the Wonderlic is an imperfect measure, we still have reason to think that he may pick up the defense quickly from a mental standpoint.



ASHBURN, Va. (AP)—The Washington Redskins signed third-round draft pick Kevin Barnes(notes) to a four-year deal with a $782,500 bonus.

Barnes is a cornerback who played at Maryland and was the 80th overall pick in April.

Also Thursday, the Redskins cut two rookie free agents: defensive end Derek Walker of Illinois, and wide receiver Jaison Williams of Oregon.

Barnes started all 20 games he played over the last two seasons at Maryland.

He posted the highest score (41) on the Wonderlic logic-thinking test given to prospects at this year’s NFL Combine and is also well-known for a big hit that became an Internet sensation. Barnes leveled California’s Jahvid Best last season, leaving Best on the ground several minutes before the running back vomited.

Thanks Lotus, yeah I think he has the smarts as well as the talent. I'm glad we got him signed, and I think he'll be a solid contributor this year.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I think the battle for Mike Williams right now is to get in shape and make the team. If he's the starter by opening day, it's a miracle. I do think he'll make the team, but if he beats out Heyer in the short time he's had, I'll be surprised. Heyer hasn't just been sitting on his ass since last season.

Sir....you are probably correct. I just thin MW will be supprising people. He was supposed to be the best of the best of the best when he came out of college. True he's had his issues with injuries, sat out, and gained weight, but I don't think he has lost all his abilities to block. He's healthy, and he's lost wieght. That's half the battle. Hopefully he has built up his endurance. He had Buges working with him practically one on one. Now he's out in Arizona with Dock, Heyer and another player working on all facets of the game....strength, endurance, and technique.

I like Heyer, I rooted for him cause he was not drafted, but he has had trouble with run blocking in the past. Now if he has fixed this problem then keep him where he's at but if he's still struggling use someone else. Honestly I hope he has been working on this and RT is not an issue. Then we can rotate the other lineman to keep fresh legs on the field or in case of injuries.

[ChickenMonkey]

I voted RT, but now that Vick is going to be back in the league, I say cut Todd Collins,
and I'll change my vote to 2nd QB.....

[budw38]

I would say RT . Unless Jarmon has a monster camp , Its Danials job . I hope we see alot of Orakpo at RDE and LDE atleast as a pass rusher during pre seaeson , as I believe he will end up at DE for years . As far as RT , is Bridges going to get any work at RT ? RG should be a battle if RT is not 100 % ,,, Rinehart and Bridges should compete as well . Im curious , do you guys think big Al is a lock at DT ? I will say , if we are improved at RT and LDE ,,,, we should kick some tail this year !

[KLHJ2]

RT, it is the only one that is going to come down to the wire. One of those recievers is going to separate himself from the pack and it is going to be obvious early who should stay.

[MTK]

He still has a long way to go is all I'm saying.

It's definitely premature to assume he's the #5 WR before camp even starts.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

He still has a long way to go is all I'm saying. It's definitely premature to assume he's the #5 WR before camp even starts.

Ill agree with that, im just sayin he has good size and speed. obviously he has great hands. put him at the 5 spot and let him develop. I wasnt saying the guy was ready to start but he does show promise of being a good wr and maybe we can get him on the field in certain situations.

[MTK]

The big thing to see is can he get open against NFL defenses? He's a bit on the lanky side and is going to have to deal with physical corners, and he needs to learn the nuances of running routes at this level.

Roydell Williams has a leg up on him in those areas.

[CRedskinsRule]

I would not mind at all seeing him thrown in with Santana and and DT in a 3WR set, on a flat out go route, maybe even sneak Cooley across the middle. Of course this all comes down to giving JC the time to drop back 7 and heave.

[DBUCHANON101]

Hey guys, i know this is off topic but the word on espn is that KC DE T.Hali may be released if he cant transition to OLB in their 3-4 scheme. what do you guys think of makin a run at him if he is let go?

[WaldSkins]

We haven't had a #2 receiver in a few years so who really cares who is the #5 receiver?

Im going to say that i just wanna see which DE's make the team.