The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis

joethiesmanfan · 09-22-2009, 10:40 AM

I don't recall seeing Smoot in the game. I saw Tryon though, any word on that? Anyway, I remember the Leigh Torrece/Avery bomb that beat us last year. I was scurrrrred.

FRPLG · 09-22-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I don't recall seeing Smoot in the game. I saw Tryon though, any word on that? Anyway, I remember the Leigh Torrece/Avery bomb that beat us last year. I was scurrrrred.

Smoot was inactive...bad back I think??? It was a game time decision.

hail_2_da_skins · 09-22-2009, 10:40 AM

Going for it on fourth and less than one yard was a good decision. I question the play call. I would like to have seen a quick hitter, quarterback sneak, fullback dive or halfback dive, not a stretch play to the most obvious side.

53Fan · 09-22-2009, 04:43 PM

Nice find SS. There's always more to the story then people think. I think people are jumping the gun on thinking Zorns in over his head.

DBUCHANON101 · 09-22-2009, 05:37 PM

It didnt happen so why are we dwelling on it? Now if we lose to the d@mn Lions ill fly to D.C and pack his bags. NO EXCUSE to let a 0-16+ team beat you. We have a good team, let them show it. As a HC its your job to put your players in a position to play to their strengths so the team can be successful.

jsarno · 09-22-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

It didnt happen so why are we dwelling on it? Now if we lose to the d@mn Lions ill fly to D.C and pack his bags. NO EXCUSE to let a 0-16+ team beat you. We have a good team, let them show it. As a HC its your job to put your players in a position to play to their strengths so the team can be successful.

What if we play poorly again, but barely beat the lions by a fg or so?

CRedskinsRule · 09-22-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

What if we play poorly again, but barely beat the lions by a fg or so?

what if we put up 45 pts.

Jsarno come on stop with the what ifs. please

jsarno · 09-22-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

what if we put up 45 pts.

Jsarno come on stop with the what ifs. please

Please pay attention to the context it was given in...buchanon said

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Now if we lose to the d@mn Lions ill fly to D.C and pack his bags.

So I am wanting to know what he will do if we barely win by a FG. I think that's a fair question.

ps- if we put up 45, I'll be very happy...even if it is the LIONS!

CRedskinsRule · 09-23-2009, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Please pay attention to the context it was given in...buchanon said
So I am wanting to know what he will do if we barely win by a FG. I think that's a fair question.

ps- if we put up 45, I'll be very happy...even if it is the LIONS!

k, I shoulda walked away a little earlier yesterday. Sorry for taking it outta context.

DBUCHANON101 · 09-23-2009, 07:33 AM

I think Cowher is coming, there are many reasons why i believe this.
IMO..Zorn was hired out of necessity, other top candidates turned DS down -Spagnuolo- and others wanted time off before they come back. -Cowher,Shanahan and Holmgren-
Zorn was supposed to fix the offense, still waiting. 0-4
Zorn was never an OC so its not like he ever gameplanned vs an opponent.
MAINLY--Zorn doesnt tust his players and it reflects in his playcalling.
I think a tough,in your face HC is EXACTLY what this team needs. How many passes do you think Tana will drop if he has to go to the sideline and deal with Cowher in his face/grill? -whatever your pref- Same with dropped int's,fumbles,missed tackles,bad throws and missed blocks.

jsarno · 09-23-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

I think Cowher is coming, there are many reasons why i believe this.
IMO..Zorn was hired out of necessity, other top candidates turned DS down -Spagnuolo- and others wanted time off before they come back. -Cowher,Shanahan and Holmgren-
Zorn was supposed to fix the offense, still waiting. 0-4
Zorn was never an OC so its not like he ever gameplanned vs an opponent.
MAINLY--Zorn doesnt tust his players and it reflects in his playcalling.
I think a tough,in your face HC is EXACTLY what this team needs. How many passes do you think Tana will drop if he has to go to the sideline and deal with Cowher in his face/grill? -whatever your pref- Same with dropped int's,fumbles,missed tackles,bad throws and missed blocks.

Harsh post, but right on.

DBUCHANON101 · 09-23-2009, 01:56 PM

The Wildcat is actually the Single Wing Offense that was used way back when teams like Princeton and Notre Dame were wearing leather helmets and winning titles. My youth football team runs the Single Wing. I tell the kids its the Wildcat to make them want to learn it because they hear about it on tv.

Beemnseven · 09-23-2009, 02:00 PM

One of the things the Wildcat does is make defenses account for the QB -- effectively making it 11 vs. 11, instead of 10 vs. 11 in a traditional offensive set where the QB is not a factor after the ball is out of his hands.

SmootSmack · 09-23-2009, 02:02 PM

So I should say the Wildcat at an NFL level "began" with Norv (who still blows as a head coach)

DBUCHANON101 · 09-23-2009, 02:10 PM

"What would happen if someone came out with a single-wing offense? It would embarrass the hell out of us." -Vince Lombardi

Even back then, Vince knew that this offense was hard to defend and if a pro team ever used it they would be successful.

09-22-2009, 10:40 AM	#1
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis I don't recall seeing Smoot in the game. I saw Tryon though, any word on that? Anyway, I remember the Leigh Torrece/Avery bomb that beat us last year. I was scurrrrred.

09-22-2009, 10:40 AM	#3
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 70 Posts: 868	Re: The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis Going for it on fourth and less than one yard was a good decision. I question the play call. I would like to have seen a quick hitter, quarterback sneak, fullback dive or halfback dive, not a stretch play to the most obvious side. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

09-22-2009, 04:43 PM	#4
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis Nice find SS. There's always more to the story then people think. I think people are jumping the gun on thinking Zorns in over his head. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

09-22-2009, 05:37 PM	#5
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis It didnt happen so why are we dwelling on it? Now if we lose to the d@mn Lions ill fly to D.C and pack his bags. NO EXCUSE to let a 0-16+ team beat you. We have a good team, let them show it. As a HC its your job to put your players in a position to play to their strengths so the team can be successful. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

09-23-2009, 07:33 AM	#10
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis I think Cowher is coming, there are many reasons why i believe this. IMO..Zorn was hired out of necessity, other top candidates turned DS down -Spagnuolo- and others wanted time off before they come back. -Cowher,Shanahan and Holmgren- Zorn was supposed to fix the offense, still waiting. 0-4 Zorn was never an OC so its not like he ever gameplanned vs an opponent. MAINLY--Zorn doesnt tust his players and it reflects in his playcalling. I think a tough,in your face HC is EXACTLY what this team needs. How many passes do you think Tana will drop if he has to go to the sideline and deal with Cowher in his face/grill? -whatever your pref- Same with dropped int's,fumbles,missed tackles,bad throws and missed blocks. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

09-23-2009, 01:56 PM	#12
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis The Wildcat is actually the Single Wing Offense that was used way back when teams like Princeton and Notre Dame were wearing leather helmets and winning titles. My youth football team runs the Single Wing. I tell the kids its the Wildcat to make them want to learn it because they hear about it on tv. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

09-23-2009, 02:00 PM	#13
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 52 Posts: 5,311	Re: The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis One of the things the Wildcat does is make defenses account for the QB -- effectively making it 11 vs. 11, instead of 10 vs. 11 in a traditional offensive set where the QB is not a factor after the ball is out of his hands.

09-23-2009, 02:02 PM	#14
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis So I should say the Wildcat at an NFL level "began" with Norv (who still blows as a head coach) __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-23-2009, 02:10 PM	#15
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis "What would happen if someone came out with a single-wing offense? It would embarrass the hell out of us." -Vince Lombardi Even back then, Vince knew that this offense was hard to defend and if a pro team ever used it they would be successful. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

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