Sources Confirm Portis-Sellers Incident

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I wouldn't say Portis is a team cancer at all...I would say though that he reportedly doesn't really speak to any of his teammates but Moss. He basically just keeps to himself. He's not a team leader but I don't know about team cancer.

That doesn't sound good for a guy that seems as extroverted as he is, that he only really talks to Moss. If his teamates were mildly pissed (at least JLC used to say there was some resentment about his preferential treatment) when CP was getting 100 yrd. games back to back, then they're bound to be pissed if he's lobbying for in game subs.

He may not be a problem on an interpersonal level (w/this Sellers incident an exception) w/his teamates, but after a while the teachers pet role grows old. He really doesn't have much room to talk, even in his best game this year, he lost his balance a few times & left some yards on the field. It's his fault he got 98 rather than 100+.

See Slingin Sammy's game review. For anyone that's played football, RBs & WRs; did you ever do the drill "the stumble bum?" It might be called different names, but it basically amounts to running w/the ball while leaning over & touching the ground w/the other hand. It's to develop balance. Maybe a little bit of practice time & doing those silly drills would help CP (I know, he's hurt all week!).

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I wouldn't say Portis is a team cancer at all...I would say though that he reportedly doesn't really speak to any of his teammates but Moss. He basically just keeps to himself. He's not a team leader but I don't know about team cancer.

Well just this week Doc Walker was commenting on how last week CP was on the side lines trying to get players fired up. When they made good playes he was giving them high five and when JC through an int. he was encouraging him not to get down on himself. This is what Doc observed and not second hand news. These thing happen in a locker room but I just have a hard time with CP going to the coaches and asking them to pull a player. I have only herd CP say positive stuff about Sellers. To me it seems that Sellers play has dropped of some sense he signed that new deal.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well just this week Doc Walker was commenting on how last week CP was on the side lines trying to get players fired up. When they made good playes he was giving them high five and when JC through an int. he was encouraging him not to get down on himself. This is what Doc observed and not second hand news. These thing happen in a locker room but I just have a hard time with CP going to the coaches and asking them to pull a player. I have only herd CP say positive stuff about Sellers. To me it seems that Sellers play has dropped of some sense he signed that new deal.

Did Sellers have a concussion earlier this season? I might be wrong?
If he did, concussions will change the way you hit or block.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Did Sellers have a concussion earlier this season? I might be wrong?
If he did, concussions will change the way you hit or block.

That explains why Landry can't make a tackle

[Longtimefan]

Why is it always Portis who seems to be at the center of most of the player/locker room contorversy? If it's not one thing it's another. From his remarks about Mike Vick to his deal with Brian Mitchell, and now Mike Sellers. There's going to be an end to this I hope.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Why is it always Portis who seems to be at the center of most of the player/locker room contorversy? If it's not one thing it's another. From his remarks about Mike Vick to his deal with Brian Mitchell, and now Mike Sellers. There's going to be an end to this I hope.

Things will change when we draft Jonathan Dwyer

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Things will change when we draft Jonathan Dwyer

I'm hoping for CJ Spiller if we draft a rb. He's a burner.

[Longtimefan]

I forgot to even mention spats with Jim Zorn as well as John Riggins. He's really going to leave a ton of friends behind when he does leave town.

[rbanerjee23]

Portis blows....not
He's definitely lost a step it seems but that could just be a product of pretty bad run blocking...

[BrunellMVP?]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

Portis blows....not
He's definitely lost a step it seems but that could just be a product of pretty bad run blocking...

I just ran some numbers for 2008 (a year where portis did well). taking all rushers with at least 190 carries (26 in total) this is how portis stacks up...

he's +1.65 standard deviations above average in carries making him 86% better than the average back
he's +1.43 st dev above the mean in attemps per game making him low 80% better than the average back
he's +1.4 st dev above the mean in total yards gained again making him low 80% better than the average back
he's +.16 st dev above the mean in yard per carry (at 4.3 ypc) making him 10% better than the average back
he's +1.22 st dev above the mean in yards per game making him 80% better than the average back
he's +.02 st dev above the mean in tds scored making him 1.36% better than the average back
he's -1.27 st dev below the mean in longest run making him 80ish% worse than the average back
he's +1.61 st dev above the mean in first downs making him 85% better than the average back
he's +.39 st dev above the mean in first down percentage making him 26% better than the average back
he's +1.3 st dev above the mean in gains of 20+ yards making him 76% better than the average back
he's -1.09 st dev below the mean in 40+ gains making him 70% worse than the average back
he's +.22 st dev above the mean in fumbles lost making him 11% worse than the average back


what does this mean? I'm not sure much (especially because he had the 3rd most attempts in the league) but as its just one year (a year when portis was pretty good, a year where it was also heavily front loaded, a year where his line fell apart, etc) but I think it says that portis is good. Yes, he doesn't explode for huge gains, but he does better than we give him credit for with 20+ runs (certainly better than I give him credit for). That said, the fact that he's just 10% better than average in yards per attempt (in a year where he matched the best average that he's had in DC) is painful.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by BrunellMVP?

he's +1.65 standard deviations above average in carries making him 86% better than the average back
he's +1.43 st dev above the mean in attemps per game making him low 80% better than the average back
he's +1.4 st dev above the mean in total yards gained again making him low 80% better than the average back
he's +.16 st dev above the mean in yard per carry (at 4.3 ypc) making him 10% better than the average back
he's +1.22 st dev above the mean in yards per game making him 80% better than the average back
he's +.02 st dev above the mean in tds scored making him 1.36% better than the average back
he's -1.27 st dev below the mean in longest run making him 80ish% worse than the average back
he's +1.61 st dev above the mean in first downs making him 85% better than the average back
he's +.39 st dev above the mean in first down percentage making him 26% better than the average back
he's +1.3 st dev above the mean in gains of 20+ yards making him 76% better than the average back
he's -1.09 st dev below the mean in 40+ gains making him 70% worse than the average back
he's +.22 st dev above the mean in fumbles lost making him 11% worse than the average back

Who let GTripp have two accounts?

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Who let GTripp have two accounts?

lol!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Who let GTripp have two accounts?

I lol'ed

[budw38]

I agree Portis should have gone to Sellers in person , but CP would have likely got his ass kicked if he had gotten in Sellers " face " .... just saying . Not a big deal IMO , when you're not winning people get angry and vent through talking .

[SmootSmack]

Here is what Portis said originally about that 4th down play

:: Portis: "I Think We Have Something Special | Clinton Portis |