Redskins pick 4th in the draft

[rbanerjee23]

If he is thinking of trading the 4th pick, honestly, I would like to see an Adrian Peterson kind of talent come over...

[Hail to the Redskins]

ummm.... I guess I should have said "realistically get" with the 4th pick... lol

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

ummm.... I guess I should have said "realistically get" with the 4th pick... lol

U might be able to get Clady for the 4th overall

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

U might be able to get Clady for the 4th overall

I seriously doubt Denver would trade one of the premier LT's in the game. I could see Marshall being traded but not Clady.

[Texanskin]

nothing but OL would be a shame.....

[skinsfaninok]

He also mentioned maybe making Trades to get more picks, does this mean player trades? If so the only legitimate player that we have to trade is Cooley. I wouldn't mind trading him if we can get a 2nd or 3rd rd pick. Davis is a very talented player and honestly as we've discussed many times, 2 TE's doesn't work in the NFL. (Ask M.Bennett)

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He also mentioned maybe making Trades to get more picks, does this mean player trades? If so the only legitimate player that we have to trade is Cooley. I wouldn't mind trading him if we can get a 2nd or 3rd rd pick. Davis is a very talented player and honestly as we've discussed many times, 2 TE's doesn't work in the NFL. (Ask M.Bennett)

Cooley is one of a handful of players that i can't see being traded.

[schndr_tdd]

tony pike

[VTSkinfan]

Originally Posted by schndr_tdd

tony pike

I'm honestly surprised because no one seems to be mentioning him. I saw him in the Big East Championship and he looks like a very talented quarterback. I would prefer Bradford or Clausen, but Pike is a good backup plan.

[Nomad]

Mike Shannahan will bring and draft the right guys for our team, so trust me... Whoever comes.... we can count on that they will produce.

[rbanerjee23]

anybody got any insight into Shanahan's past record of drafting...we all know about his finding running back gems (at least for his system) but does any one know of whether or not him/Allen find gold in the later rounds?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

anybody got any insight into Shanahan's past record of drafting...we all know about his finding running back gems (at least for his system) but does any one know of whether or not him/Allen find gold in the later rounds?

He was head guy in Denver 1995-2008. You can check his draft history here:
National Football League: NFL Draft History Full Draft - by Team

[Rajmahal33]

This may sound crazy but hear me out first. Also this is assuming that we do get Shanahan. I think we should trade the 4th pick for a shutdown corner with NFL starting experience. Someone like a younger version of Asante Samuel.
1) Risk - We absolutely can't afford to waste this pick on a possible bust. If we get a young stud CB who has proven potential and already gone thru the NFL learning curve, we can be set at this position for a while. We reduce the risk of failure by not drafting with this pick. Something about picking in the top 5 scares me.
2) Premium for a good CB - Though OT (and QB) are more glaring needs, it seems simply impossible to ensure that we get a starter with true value at these position. I think CB is one of the positions that is the hardest to find a solid player (next to QB). Drafting a rookie to fill this role later is going to be equally tough and risky. No one knows if these guys will develop coming out of college. Let another team take the risk of developing them and we can take advantage of their labor.
3) Later picks/better scouting - With a lot more picks than we usually have and a real GM (in addition to Shanahan's staff), i feel confident that we can get a starting O-linemen in the later rounds of the draft with one of those picks. It's more likely that we can get one or two starting linemen if we throw more picks rather one high profile one at the problem.
4) From a cap standpoint this may make more sense too. The going rate for a top 5 pick (especially an O-linemen or QB) is irrationally high nowadays. If we are going to throw away those kinda dollars at a player, I want to be sure that he sees the field and performs. By getting a good CB with starting experience, we can ensure that he will see PT at a somewhat reduced cost and we'll be able to chase other pieces with that money.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Rajmahal33

This may sound crazy but hear me out first. Also this is assuming that we do get Shanahan. I think we should trade the 4th pick for a shutdown corner with NFL starting experience. Someone like a younger version of Asante Samuel.
1) Risk - We absolutely can't afford to waste this pick on a possible bust. If we get a young stud CB who has proven potential and already gone thru the NFL learning curve, we can be set at this position for a while. We reduce the risk of failure by not drafting with this pick. Something about picking in the top 5 scares me.
2) Premium for a good CB - Though OT (and QB) are more glaring needs, it seems simply impossible to ensure that we get a starter with true value at these position. I think CB is one of the positions that is the hardest to find a solid player (next to QB). Drafting a rookie to fill this role later is going to be equally tough and risky. No one knows if these guys will develop coming out of college. Let another team take the risk of developing them and we can take advantage of their labor.
3) Later picks/better scouting - With a lot more picks than we usually have and a real GM (in addition to Shanahan's staff), i feel confident that we can get a starting O-linemen in the later rounds of the draft with one of those picks. It's more likely that we can get one or two starting linemen if we throw more picks rather one high profile one at the problem.
4) From a cap standpoint this may make more sense too. The going rate for a top 5 pick (especially an O-linemen or QB) is irrationally high nowadays. If we are going to throw away those kinda dollars at a player, I want to be sure that he sees the field and performs. By getting a good CB with starting experience, we can ensure that he will see PT at a somewhat reduced cost and we'll be able to chase other pieces with that money.

If you want a corner so badly, why not just draft Joe Haden? I'm certainly not suggesting we use our 4th pick on him, but by your rationale, that would be the best move. He came to Florida having never played corner before, and yet he started at CB from day one as a freshman and hasn't missed a game since and was 1st team all-American this year. Plus he's a local guy. He's a sick prospect.

You say trade the 4th pick for a great corner. Who? What young shutdown corner is out there that is trade bait?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

If you want a corner so badly, why not just draft Joe Haden? I'm certainly not suggesting we use our 4th pick on him, but by your rationale, that would be the best move. He came to Florida having never played corner before, and yet he started at CB from day one as a freshman and hasn't missed a game since and was 1st team all-American this year. Plus he's a local guy. He's a sick prospect.

You say trade the 4th pick for a great corner. Who? What young shutdown corner is out there that is trade bait?

You could probably grab Asomugha for Rogers + 4th overall pick.