ESPN: Clayton Expects Skins to Tender Campbell for a 1st and 3rd

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by tootergray34

fuck that if we draft a QB i want him thrown in the fire a la sanchez...worket out pretty well for the JETS.

Yeah, because the Jets have an offensive line that would make me look good as a QB. If Shanny can build the line, anything can happen. Two first round picks would allow us to get Bradford and a first-round tackle.

[The Goat]

I doubt Jason has any trade value. The tender is irrelevant so they might as well make it for a trillion $ and a toilet made of solid gold. He'll either be cut if Shanny & Co find a true starter or he'll just compete for a spot on the team.

Realistically he's a Redskin for another year; however, it's not realistic to expect him to start all season. When Jason gets out of rhythm he's totally ineffective, struggling even to complete the basic stuff. Shanny will bench him in a heartbeat.

The more I think about Jason's future it's actually easy to see him out of the league not too long from now. One thing we know is he thinks he's far better than he really is...always asserting he is unquestionably a starter in this league. We also know most, if not all, franchises do not see him as a starter. If he's unwilling to meet his likely destiny on the bench somewhere I can see him just calling it good.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Realistically he's a Redskin for another year; however, it's not realistic to expect him to start all season. When Jason gets out of rhythm he's totally ineffective, struggling even to complete the basic stuff. Shanny will bench him in a heartbeat.

Usually I would disagree with you but Shanahan did bench Plummer in favor of Cutler when the Bronco's were still vying for a playoff spot. Then again Plummer regressed pretty strongly that year.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I doubt Jason has any trade value. The tender is irrelevant so they might as well make it for a trillion $ and a toilet made of solid gold. He'll either be cut if Shanny & Co find a true starter or he'll just compete for a spot on the team.

Realistically he's a Redskin for another year; however, it's not realistic to expect him to start all season. When Jason gets out of rhythm he's totally ineffective, struggling even to complete the basic stuff. Shanny will bench him in a heartbeat.

The more I think about Jason's future it's actually easy to see him out of the league not too long from now. One thing we know is he thinks he's far better than he really is...always asserting he is unquestionably a starter in this league. We also know most, if not all, franchises do not see him as a starter. If he's unwilling to meet his likely destiny on the bench somewhere I can see him just calling it good.

As much bad rep as he gets for not being vocal.. if he said "we'll have to see if the coaches think that I'm an NFL starter" that would be career suicide

[Dirtbag59]

Sanchez wasn't that good this year. They basically got into the playoffs with their defense and top teir running game, not to mention playing two teams that rested starters then playing two teams that couldn't kick if their life depended on it. Lucky is the word that comes to mind when I think of the Jets this year and I find it very difficult to imagine them being a playoff team next year unless Sanchez takes the next step in his development. A feat that he's certainly capable of achieving. This isn't Matt "am I sober yet" Leinart.

[SmootSmack]

Campbell. It's Jason Campbell

[GridIron26]

This is great news.. Redskins FO (Shanahan and Allen) are definitely doing right things so far; granted it's only based on rumors.. But still...

[SolidSnake84]

Can i ask a question about this? When they say they are "tendering" him, does that mean they will not let him go without getting a 1st and a 3rd?

Or is it them calling somebody's bluff because they realize that Jason will not get those picks....somebody help me out. I'm honestly confused.

[MTK]

If they tender him at the 1st and 3rd level, that's just the starting off point for negotiations. It doesn't mean that he can only be dealt for a 1st and 3rd.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If they tender him at the 1st and 3rd level, that's just the starting off point for negotiations. It doesn't mean that he can only be dealt for a 1st and 3rd.

Do you think they would take a 2nd for him? I think they might if they get one. It's possible. I'm not sure a team would give up a second though.

I do think MS's plan is to keep JC and draft a QB to sit for a year.

Purely for speculation, If you do get a 2nd for JC, you'd have a 1st and 2 2nds. Trading down we could potentially have a later 1st and 3 2nds or 2 2nds and a 3rd.

4 potential draft picks in the 1st two rounds would be a good thing. That could fill some holes. We'd be sacrificing by not having an experienced QB in 2010. There are some qb's on the market though that could fill that role. Hey, i know, I'm bored.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Do you think they would take a 2nd for him? I think they might if they get one. It's possible. I'm not sure a team would give up a second though.

I do think MS's plan is to keep JC and draft a QB to sit for a year.

Purely for speculation, If you do get a 2nd for JC, you'd have a 1st and 2 2nds. Trading down we could potentially have a later 1st and 3 2nds or 2 2nds and a 3rd.

4 potential draft picks in the 1st two rounds would be a good thing. That could fill some holes. We'd be sacrificing by not having an experienced QB in 2010. There are some qb's on the market though that could fill that role. Hey, i know, I'm bored.

A 2nd and a conditional lower rounder and I think the Skins are interested. But only if we also have a veteran lined up to be the short term starter. I don't see MS tossing a rookie to the wolves in year 1.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

A 2nd and a conditional lower rounder and I think the Skins are interested. But only if we also have a veteran lined up to be the short term starter. I don't see MS tossing a rookie to the wolves in year 1.

At least the first 8 games. Last half of the season is a different story.

[MTK]

202 step up your game son

[PHazard]

Although Campbell isnt the only reason we are 4-12. He's a good chunk of it. When you are the QB, you are the face of the organization. If you win, you get the praise. If you lose, you get the blame. Its the nature of the beast. Peyton Manning did pretty damn well with a shitty offensive line comprised of mid rounders and undrafted free agents. Not to mention a running game that was ranked 32 in the league, or as i like to call DEAD LAST. But he doesnt get sacked cuz he knows how to read a defense and knows where to go with the ball. i am in NO WAY comparing manning and campbell. But a FRANCHISE QB would have gotten more than 4 wins. We had 8 losses of less than ONE possession (against Giants, Lions, Panthers, Chiefs, Cowboys, Eagles, Saints, Chargers). Campbell cant drive down the field at the end of a game against a prevent defense to give his team a chance to win. Say we came back in even half of those games then we're 8-8 and the season doesnt look damn near as dismal. If we won them all (unlikely obviously, we'd be 12-4) lol ridiculous right? And we had a head coach that was so busy being a QB's coach, that our whole team downspiraled and campbell STILL didnt raise his game. Statistically yes but those are deceiving. Not saying campbell was our only problem cuz thats far from the case but a franchise QB can read a defense, make audibles at the line and lead his team to victory. 3 things jason campbell cant not do

[CRedskinsRule]

I think teams will try to offer a 3rd, but we should push for either a mid 2nd, or a 3rd and 6th. JC is a proven mid-grade starter and we shouldn't shortchange ourselves, but we also know we want to go a different direction so lets get something for him.